From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x629.google.com (mail-ej1-x629.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::629]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 080743B29D for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 12:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ej1-x629.google.com with SMTP id qa43so18744467ejc.12 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:10:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4sBfieXlE4a5kOLYL3k5L3tw3AjPbYxNwY2iq51rRSY=; b=XpNeZXk0f6ZhvbnVG6R0y+9eGfuruZ/K5BQhk4Tg6Vu2oa8cShqpqdxeXyErwBWvRH E7yComog7IyiFw0lDFnBy04DYTVnePbnbbeIrosRLVA7aGCEdNHDP9iybIeypfRGkVG3 UHlf7+e5YDms1MuIz3BD25vwI1gEgU/UhTXVr3hN9cgmYIrDkrsf1ddU+/KsfKk2LEFV ewC2vNE88f4IBJR37T5VMjxZ3h2Y8p0Wpzf5Yp1gezgFTDyTU96mRaek+4C5f52kLq9/ OnOW9M6AUJxgd/Gt8q97pJmRDoInymIHCO4qj45cSVMZ1UvTRO31jATmIUnZ1YEthtnr kTuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4sBfieXlE4a5kOLYL3k5L3tw3AjPbYxNwY2iq51rRSY=; b=G/lO6v9m8j/Qcsb9TSh17yIoNNHh2FIj3/NYOo3zPnID3Ci4VBvzDYmMvtCNNQZ7hx vqJm7wFhu8l/X+k1GvpAqr9V0yTxQTD5FF+pfhtkVljFoT2PisrSeqUWP9iLR9ekWHHG 3Ud7ywG7mKIz+EKjmQLgp9sL8Cwhz3xq3Cq1DEto75gxtp0nCgxnKxds4jLHJjP601ln H763Ld+SMfjIpxWNEeefkssplNJqyX1UNzq/rLEcBBgotmh4RuGIMYeb7aSsyI24YUI0 kRJsHtPKQbgSwPd/QgiqqK9yI0QySHAekPOzf7rHkjC6kRJtCgalnwEEuLp/G4WOqroF 2KNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531+O4n28rVVqE+j5WS+aPpDbt7hzhatBgj5wR588krD/xPZTTfa 7KTG4hVBO2/j/Ekgp4+pZEgrEvnPmPtRIxZdAUs8C1e0RA0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3i7S8F+zw9LSyvKrMnsf6vQseh4laXtPFlRec7cXeBijRmQuUYZTxyeNBUuFxcVF22oVVzGQz0Jbr7iLUkbY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:168f:b0:6da:b548:4f9f with SMTP id hc15-20020a170907168f00b006dab5484f9fmr3699591ejc.666.1646413847540; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:10:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1646351242.121623495@apps.rackspace.com> <2b2f1808-8cf7-6eae-3157-a5fc554a2424@auckland.ac.nz> <03e73122-63c3-497b-82c6-b7b7f23b627a@Spark> <3ooo342q-s937-qq3-492q-723np793qoo@ynat.uz> <7ee92a7f-ae58-5090-8ee0-32df8ec29c2b@auckland.ac.nz> <20220304170811.GA16708@mail.taht.net> In-Reply-To: <20220304170811.GA16708@mail.taht.net> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 12:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= Cc: Ulrich Speidel , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 17:10:49 -0000 please see: https://twitter.com/capacitymedia/status/1499777574058274823 as for means to track some of those disruptions. On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:08 PM Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: > > Taking control of 1/3 the electrical power potentially disrupts > most communication technologies. Distributed power collection > and generation is also identifiable from above. > > There has been a very good discussion about preserving communications > and infrastructure on the nanog mailing list, with among other things > ripe and ICANNs refusal to disrupt the dns on behalf of any party. > > However the cloud providers and major companies are coming down > hard against russia. > > These three aspects of a fresh war in europe I confess to not > having thought about much before this week. > > A fourth is that I know very little about the other countries > formerly of the USSR and their infrastructures and alignments, > and have been trying to find out, as I think those are the > major wild cards moving forward through this week. > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC