From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFE9F3B29D for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id o20-20020a05600c4fd400b003b4a516c479so1666325wmq.1 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:04:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=ScYQgBFix2Ylz7uAVKTN49xtq0kJSxjH/aevFGSmFNA=; b=OSSGkPCsI0JTyb4ljLmf2E9E6RzgeggSGNuiJqqfr8bzruZKl9vPHR9QrhXO6HG2vp jKb92RoVmN1SYQgfe5QCEzEnLef3uiP03UvrDEQxHzctvuBxPwZbhQJ+uKORZzbOX7f4 yN+EmPu32ZW8vZeSDBdJGEefNu1dR8/Ohp+64bS/hBwLuBfa9Un97uNHC9DfhYLCmaam /QEDUlJlxU2H3QI0zxpjpQ5EzfnumMH66/ZDmA8Vo8vAtQzornFY/Zg7yLkbkPGckLNh 5zo4e5Yek6VZO3DOmwsj344Ercv0iOlU+xjSglnC2oQwoqsKOupBLvNDT5kmg+7KPTMs H+uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date; bh=ScYQgBFix2Ylz7uAVKTN49xtq0kJSxjH/aevFGSmFNA=; b=q4S5zfQVAiOrSf8vMW2tMC+7xaWDIytuncgRvtueLRqb89gifDjVcPBLfnpofGXH20 KEmPngE8aIaOcws7lnELoGLGLEwJx366ZIN6A4L/jEpB16Eh4LNjLTjBoAt9fWWDdU6X X7gE0H7vZSGfYjZBGkeuUAluAWWkKY5Jh/xcCXxvZdSwG/Z7LFiwB8DiwDvp5IdIa+0N Jk+icCa5WhQ33rEJV2h6XaMpUXF99A/tQU0b0VTdqkHyccv3t85yhGigz3LxK7qiHA4p iWu6YDf2H511S/4i3tMeeWB3L6i49ljmnqzQdi3ZURBTxwjpZvV2BYJoYj3wouqavtK7 xMxA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2g16QwDDWmG+Q4nRVzZUG3yWhegTkfdDBHASVUexFmUhBf/YC0 mhn82f/m/QTHgctivfCOg6tW54qYE/WEhF+94Ik8YVn/R5Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6H0+HYTPx/sWk8Z3BjTzq6NJcz5qidJo0IQP50WJDxLYOSfPbGDabHr3kyPaAgxmkjQ+BbUexQEhKh9L1lg/U= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:6025:b0:3b4:8c0c:f3c9 with SMTP id az37-20020a05600c602500b003b48c0cf3c9mr8261528wmb.206.1664399065513; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:04:13 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dotzero Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 21:04:26 -0000 On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 1:59 PM Dotzero wrote: > > It appears they sent the email about best effort service to lots of peopl= e. I imagine with them boasting about 1m routers made, that they have inventory to ship! And really, if they get the buffering under control, "best effort" would be pretty good, IMHO. btw, today the cake-autorate team shipped v1.1 of the code, tested against lte, 5g, cable and starlink. They've made good progress on detecting when network conditions deteriorate and recover. Give it a shot via: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/135379/2 > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 PM Dave Taht wrote: >> >> Awesome. We don't have any data on their best effort service. It would >> be my hope they configure things >> with buffering suitable for that range of achievable speeds. >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:53 PM Dotzero via Starlink >> wrote: >> > >> > I've been on the wait list for almost 10 months and just received an e= mail that I can sign up for a "best efforts" offering. Seeing as they also = indicated the estimated time for regular service is mid-2023, I decided to = go with it (You don't lose your place on the wait list). You can also "paus= e" the best effort service so I don't really have anything to lose. >> > >> > Has anyone had experience with this offering? Any input appreciated. I= f it makes a difference, location is Central East Ohio. >> > >> > According to https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-6= 9?regionCode=3DUS, latency will be comparable to regular service, down will= be 5-100mbs and up will be 1-10mps unless service is deprioritized due to = congestion. >> > >> > Thanks in advance. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Starlink mailing list >> > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> >> >> -- >> FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_c= odel/ >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_code= l/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC