From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57F6B3B29E for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id z13-20020a7bc7cd000000b003b5054c6f9bso7303283wmk.2 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:21:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=TQWBPW1AR3LKfpLXhzEEOWXkz7wRn+prJI57C+kCFV0=; b=ZHmZ2hEyz/mIOKG0w1VNUFF4wF6ZhbBL2kFeRgq09yhddmXdFSXDgxLxC2IV/GiBIP T9aAqdw6s9s5/cH1vebEYWyh4lJ1K7vOgIsrIRVEkRoSTZnawWzqWRwB/nzD0HGEqPEE +W6UldyjDrIVKTIJ0h63uBTkJfBxS4aXitnmzRhNNtY4eVFR6gf9eLjLHjTMB2CU7zBu oZX2Io/BLowNosp7XhM2QCd1Wi9dsYRUlMvQYJlwuwTBxt/WvnsDHCwKJ4dk6XeJgLeK SCK1LS8/b/AasWp6TH3wKTzXpPDc1FsrHCQMx+LYl7e6MY0OQF635f2tp5wg+2M3V4fF MWdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date; bh=TQWBPW1AR3LKfpLXhzEEOWXkz7wRn+prJI57C+kCFV0=; b=C/W9rFMu/481S+O9wa11vfZtgfJ+kWYa63DXhBTEI7j2fSXksKVytrDkYvadid00Rq NFmRq9UO3JIKZO77FpIxcm3ZC0UUiBv0pu3HzNkhvRdiVrSYl5YWa2lEvpplWDVnCIJL at3T9YZGON3LkgCL9HZxKaS7J7MbDgMpqwR+UJGlxgrJKykTgvGyHsHA5BTEeZt6+Hl7 e+t+NZSqItlGnQVDEL7XbdN//FzyQAbsmS1TlqZXu6SJ0+pMr16JNJG5lXqbvqxiISc3 R9KLmztDhYEKjGi4XPhpeMhh1MVxQevb81bsQL0sLwxCU0/nYqKocLmXxPYA6j7lpwzk jU9A== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf15k2Rx+g04+U1vGFuGesE8i7ICfuL3WGRpAFyfA62boDkFXuzA qQEp0loRistZFjUFnTcNcNDvbeB/QVAL98t4EKOJWcNT X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7Fsi0twxLAorK6oajSzPhUu3K0Q2Hke6BYWW+mWMY4K5Qpl0Jowr6UkmKgzYxFsZYN3dCKP3TTKa49lpZ0whk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1da2:b0:3b4:856a:162c with SMTP id p34-20020a05600c1da200b003b4856a162cmr22149563wms.28.1664209302008; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:21:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <060F7695-D48E-413C-9501-54ECC651ABEB@cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:21:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Livingood, Jason" Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 16:21:43 -0000 These days, if you want attention, you gotta buy it. A 50k half page ad in the wapo or NYT riffing off of It's the latency, Stupid!", signed by the kinds of luminaries we got for the fcc wifi fight, would go a long way towards shifting the tide. On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 8:29 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 8:20 AM Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > > > The awareness & understanding of latency & impact on QoE is nearly unkn= own among reporters. IMO maybe there should be some kind of background brie= fings for reporters - maybe like a simple YouTube video explainer that is s= hort & high level & visual? Otherwise reporters will just continue to focus= on what they know... > > That's a great idea. I have visions of crashing the washington > correspondents dinner, but perhaps > there is some set of gatherings journalists regularly attend? > > > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 9/21/22, 14:35, "Starlink on behalf of Dave Taht via Starli= nk" wrote: > > > > I still find it remarkable that reporters are still missing the > > meaning of the huge latencies for starlink, under load. > > > > > > > -- > FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_co= del/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC --=20 FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_code= l/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC