From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x130.google.com (mail-il1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 139413B29D for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 16:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x130.google.com with SMTP id o9so2160929ilh.6 for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k8looQg24+cDxzNbJLpKptXCKqlgByxljzJ1DVZmnwg=; b=n3aGYA50b0DA6yzezo86nPX7Cchb4EkYDuha2nsxxRQti1ErRrTymkw8KWfVoFVRq1 a6ptKySe80UCVU1TBvRdqP0CUVjgv2rEyqUD4FAQVRv/O5o9z5qdAZhmP5YYZewaTHu9 yQCv6Ky11Anr3h8CdHA2YEMt2fiFlFxmUtLwmqkKuZtv6i0v6qaiIJPaU7HwQOZDw/SD RbQvk4aUX1nbC4o8Kfm5XUrMqwrnLyRfoR3e4joWbIAWiCjdGyOeMKVBAVAhW/WusMC9 zsemQ+nBOyl/dvcCdSlulu48GG6LX4KvDXFIEosnJPTERkCG3UarXbIimo3JcGwg6KuN BaTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k8looQg24+cDxzNbJLpKptXCKqlgByxljzJ1DVZmnwg=; b=pgFPWJ7TSdxMkii3yjblWko9apCkWkiNyrcuZt6hGNLGlW1WB5p1vVjgFZo7BRAn+w lkgkNRO+L6QTQH6Y8MCQaqnPjfmKtV1EG+aP/fAuJTaCmBuCLiV/u1NrupqSD+dPvxhr z4d2EC5HQ2Zk8zd2ovUFlz8I6HuDV4Sjv2SX+OuKmIJu5Jj9dL09JHaSQl4YylLGxI9w QQHc+/AiBp/MpBYnv89bRMEIWlA2Z7vg3DkW7QCZZDPvhHXp4xkX1qYk1AQXejrtsnRg ZiDTPIF+dIbhDIulI3i3o8Rgy+6uNvUL8aDxAhJQdckocVymIb24Wzsnzqdo64UQHmW1 uD6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532O/l1w6aRCqEtinN9WPyHRgo6DYoJ93+Dyt8s1KLxAJYYnBwHH ++v7CqDjTuAhj7E1G13FRXdy6QSLIntdLAHhQtC86rSeQBE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwdItsTYRU+Yp2y8AXYrovHkMfQqu7ZtkO/hQk1v7PuIGID4vZ4sVneGOnByJli+PqJi068+7dN+tUht48Ng9k= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d6c2:: with SMTP id z2mr210443ilp.246.1622062452385; Wed, 26 May 2021 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210526132019.GD30188@mail.taht.net> <911b6113-aebe-43f0-e94f-1ed4a132fe99@thexlab.org> In-Reply-To: <911b6113-aebe-43f0-e94f-1ed4a132fe99@thexlab.org> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 13:54:00 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sascha Meinrath Cc: George Burdell , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink <-> starlink tests over ivpv6 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 20:54:13 -0000 On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 7:11 AM Sascha Meinrath wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm happy to put my dishy at the disposal of the group, but have been utt= erly > crammed for time. That said, if folks want to walk me through what would = be most > helpful (i.e., specific equipment to plug in/access control to grant/etc.= ), > happy to get that implemented so that folks can utilize this resource. The simplest possible arrangement is a linux box directly in front of the dishy not their supplied router. Nearly any kind will suffice, so long as it can get an ipv6 address. I have a mild preference for the current ubuntu, or the openwrt release candidate, but even centos would suffice. Supplying our ssh keys for further configuration (if needed) for other tests, like of DoH vs DNS. We prefer raw hardware rather than a vm, to rule out interactions with vm jitter and latencies. A raspi-4 is fine. x86_64 preferred. Possible, but less useful, would be an osx box, configured to run netserver and irtt, I can supply working binaries of each. windows is right out. > Also, my Starlink network is completely separated from my home network (s= o folks > can do pretty much whatever would be most useful with it without worry). > Physically, it's located in central PA, USA. > > Let me know, > > --Sascha Meinrath > Director, X-Lab > Palmer Chair in Telecommunications > Penn State University > > On 5/26/21 9:20 AM, George Burdell wrote: > > I have setup a doodle poll for co-ordinating times to meet > > > > https://doodle.com/poll/qamim95xpb8kwanx?utm_source=3Dpoll&utm_medium= =3Dlink > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 04:40:51PM -0700, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I think we are at 6? people with dishys now on this list? Most having > >> got rid of the starlink provided router? > >> > >> What I would love to do is a string of bufferbloat related tests > >> between your networks, much like I've been testing > >> to the cloud. This would include traceroute or mtr, the rrul, tcp_nup, > >> tcp_ndown tests with sqm on and off. > >> > >> I know george hasn't been publishing via anything other than git via > >> rsync, but the simple test scripts there > >> can be modified to do a string of tests dishy to dishy. > >> > >> There are also many ways to take a dynamic ipv6 address and put it > >> into dns. linode's is straightforward if > >> you'd want to leverage taht.net. > >> > >> (for the record "taht" means "star or planet" in estonian) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Latest Podcast: > >> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:67910142849367859= 20/ > >> > >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Starlink mailing list > >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC