From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6AD23CB37 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-3f78a32266bso29740945e9.3 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 13:52:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1686430343; x=1689022343; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=qQexVEx4kcZbe3yjGA6CN4qr1/7DViNwzLC26++BM74=; b=qEc6f7JkDg3a2ct5wpqyVvKx/VRVtU4E0jRa8jfDVIu5HveI0VtlYsYxavb0L9zhwh FoCN/RVhUTWbb1JYYxt3BYLweFu0NG78V8JSzQ7z3D1UJnMGNF6KNEF+B+B4n4ks9Kw0 PA92ty54lSqsZwbxY3jsRqIwOBKQwMqR32YT+HkOPDwEMOzEn8f/aDXXOm2UMqzx+gt6 GnMulWwz7q3rpwVm9r53Q1rkAyHajBrUJPWP5ocetcbDYuWoZxl347/TbJFtt6aVLLpK 9Xr31Hzgv8sZN9hoUKislN+k0iyg3994bk9ma+gmG0uQc48dNh2xK44WtEgjtqDKSNnz 3Phg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686430343; x=1689022343; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=qQexVEx4kcZbe3yjGA6CN4qr1/7DViNwzLC26++BM74=; b=EuRHZIOy7wxs2uOskslFunT3EnRJHDdkTdIQJI2vBnutdMuJNELYXxZJGXWlXydBOH Z1ZulGrH6jXD2J3AWAewTH+HaGpbyiyhbFQjJiTEN61SUFPEh4guA079Nm836qe6Sue2 YORk398F28rqVTkwXEPZalN1BO1PGFADI/7c5gZnMhMLEN7rFy3pbwOPjJLQE7qDFU+V kzJoTDFDVjAQ81ifBOwe2BFk/RKuV4sbbpF09rYcYSLCUVSENQhBYqv55XCnSSesUMjI icnjQK7f3kKVLsJRtY2GGydn4HRB1qStPe93RRI11a039fHi6ypZjACHY/9xMlshSK/N yGEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDx64eaefFDcPy9wtsi3oNfbLWrAYIHbc9r0QK9qKGjIm+SasAgI vatYLsULWmjkddSiRF2rMsUSZ6+xln083ORD7FfKKmWs X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7wsguV6luUfLUvUI3Lt6uqNn1JaH2zUhw0cz5NtdX88pG+Fo30u3NzAHWBzcOcHNpGQ8wDZv9ToQTJbwHOOgc= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f791:0:b0:306:30ea:a060 with SMTP id q17-20020adff791000000b0030630eaa060mr1945008wrp.51.1686430343171; Sat, 10 Jun 2023 13:52:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <856E6EF9-D980-40BC-8F2A-84AEE4152DBA@cs.ucla.edu> <7309DBE0-C701-4061-8C11-A718C3CF94B2@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <7309DBE0-C701-4061-8C11-A718C3CF94B2@cs.ucla.edu> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 14:52:11 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] more leo conferences X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:52:25 -0000 https://stintworkshops.org/ deadline is june 17. I just withdrew my proposal for a "Linux in space" track at Linux plumbers, although doing a bof has been suggested. On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM Lixia Zhang wrot= e: > > Hi Nitinder, > > I saw that the workshop extended the due date to 6/30. That really helps,= thanks (ACM ICN deadline is 6/19 and we have multiple submissions there; o= ne of them is evaluation of running NDN over LEO:) > > We do plan to make a submission to your workshop, hope we can finish it d= uring the 10 days after the ICN deadline. > > Lixia > > On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Nitinder Mohan wrote: > > Hi Lixia, Dave, > > Thanks for your feedback and interest. Sharing this on this mailing list = completely skipped my mind so I apologize for my oversight. > > As organizers we have some wiggle room to extend the deadline by 1-2 week= s to make sure we ensure good quality submissions. We are not advertising t= his wiggle room explicitly as of this moment. In case you are interested in= submitting, please do let us know if you need more time. We will try our l= evel best to accomodate you. > > @Dave Thanks for your feedback and opinions on LEO. We do welcome researc= h ideas involving interplay of LEO, MEO, GEO networks. We believe that the = research potential involving LEO is quite vast and this workshop is a gentl= e nudge to the networking and systems research community to think =E2=80=9C= freely=E2=80=9D in this space. > > Thanks again for your comments. We are looking forward to your submission= s. > > Thanks and Regards > > Nitinder Mohan > Postdoctoral Fellow > Technical University Munich (TUM) > https://www.nitindermohan.com/ > > On 2. June 2023 at 18:54:01, Lixia Zhang (lixia@cs.ucla.edu) wrote: >> >> Hi Nitinder, >> >> I would like to strongly agree with Dave here -- you sent out this CFP a= bout 2 weeks before due date, how likely would anyone be able cook up a pap= er in such a short period? >> >> Lixia >> >> On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:14 AM, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: >> >> While I am *delighted* to see this... the june 19th deadline is awfully = tight. >> >> The CFP calls for "novelty", where when it comes to space, reality >> triumphs, and there is little widely understood ground (space?) truth, >> to leverage as starting points, as yet, IMHO, and few of those in that >> part of the business willing or able to share. I do hope to see >> submissions from companies that have succeeded and are willing to >> share. >> >> In terms of looking further out, I see LEO as too limiting - in the >> context of the much larger and interesting problems of properly >> supporting the earth-moon and earth-mars corridors, and ultimately, >> better exploring the solar system. Perhaps one day a GTO or sun-sync >> conference would be ideal to have, and I would so love to have reports >> back from the 8 spacex "Transporter" missions to date. 100s of >> cubesats in those that far, far too few, know anything about! >> >> Over here, back in 2014, I tried to explain the importance of getting >> our space software more right, for that, in about 1 minute: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQWdL2Wu7M-8&t=3D900s >> >> Lastly, if there is any one point, that I am always making, and >> indeed, made in that talk, it is the need to have people at all layers >> of the network stack, communicating. I would hope that at least some >> folk, with more of an IEEE background, can be part of this conference. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFAM Nitinder Mohan via Starlink >> wrote: >> >> >> Dear Starlink bufferbloat community, >> >> We are organizing the first LEO communications and networking workshop w= hich is inspired by the many wonderful discussions on this mailing list. In= case you are working on characterising and understanding LEO operations an= d performance, please consider submitting your work to the workshop. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> The 1st ACM Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET) >> >> To be held in conjunction with ACM MobiCom 2023 >> >> October 2023, Madrid, Spain >> >> Workshop website: https://leo-net-workshop.github.io/2023/ >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite communication and networking is a rapidl= y growing field with great potential for enabling new and innovative applic= ations by providing low-latency, high-bandwidth Internet connectivity globa= lly. Massive-scale LEO deployments from industrial players, such as Starlin= k, OneWeb, etc. have allowed wide-scale availability of LEO satellite netwo= rk access globally but their network remains to operate as a black box. How= ever, considering the state of LEO networking and constellation design is s= till in its infancy, we believe that the unique challenges posed by the inh= erently dynamic LEO satellite architectures, necessitate novel solutions in= network architecture, protocol design, resource management, along with sev= eral other verticals. >> >> LEO-NET 2023 invites submissions from researchers and practitioners in a= cademia and industry who are exploring the latest developments and open cha= llenges in LEO satellite networks and communications. We also welcome work-= in-progress and position papers that present new directions, highly origina= l ideas, or have the potential to provoke insightful discussions during the= workshop. Whether you're an expert or a newcomer to the field, we encourag= e you to join us and contribute to this exciting area of research. >> >> *** Topics of Interest *** >> >> LEO constellation topology/constellation design >> Routing for LEO constellations >> Transport for LEO networks >> Optical/RF wireless last-mile >> Resource management for LEO networks >> Mobility and handover management in LEO networks >> Interactions between LEO, MEO and GEO constellations >> Interplay next-generation mobile (5G, 6G) and LEO networks >> Mobile/Edge computing and IoT in space >> ML/AI for LEO satellites >> Emerging applications for LEO networks >> Performance measurements over LEO networks >> Simulation/Emulation tools for LEO networks >> Security/Privacy for LEO networks >> >> *** Submission Instructions *** >> >> Submissions must be original, unpublished work, and not currently under = consideration elsewhere. Submitted papers must be no longer than five (5) p= ages, including all figures, tables, followed by 1 page references. Submiss= ion should be single PDF file with all fonts embedded, in two-column 10pt A= CM format with authors names and affiliations hidden for double-blind peer = review. Authors of accepted papers are expected to present their work at th= e workshop. Accepted papers will be published in the MobiCom Workshop Proce= edings, and available at the ACM Digital Library. >> >> *** Important Dates *** >> >> Paper Submission: June 19, 2023 >> Acceptance notification: August 2, 2023 >> Camera-ready Workshop Papers: August 11, 2023 >> >> *** Steering Committee *** >> >> Nitinder Mohan, Technical University of Munich, Germany >> >> Deepak Vasisht, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, USA >> >> Mohamed Kassem, University of Surrey, UK >> >> *** Advisory Board *** >> >> Debopam Bhattacharjee, Microsoft Research, India >> >> *** Technical Program Committee *** >> >> Nishanth Sastry, University of Surrey, UK >> >> Mahesh Marina, University of Edinburgh, UK >> >> Ahmed Saeed, GeorgiaTech, USA >> >> Aravindh Raman, Telefonica Research, Spain >> >> Debopam Bhattacherjee, Microsoft Research India >> >> Anna Br=C3=BCnstorm, Karlstadt University, Sweden >> >> Akshay Gadre, University of Washington, USA >> >> Tusher Chakraborty, Microsoft Research, USA >> >> J=C3=B6rg Ott, Technical University of Munich, Germany >> >> Arpit Gupta, University of California Santa Barbara, USA >> >> Yuanjie Li, Tsinghua University, China >> >> David Bermbach, TU Berlin, Germany >> >> Giacomo Giuliari, ETH Zurich, Switzerland >> >> >> Thanks and Regards >> >> Nitinder Mohan >> Postdoctoral Fellow >> Technical University Munich (TUM) >> https://www.nitindermohan.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910= 227111937/ >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> > --=20 Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227= 111937/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos