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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>,
	 Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink business peering
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 02:42:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw4ySF-hjW_uWuGOLmprR8PWCmHejXZMEZ4PNDC5eGDssA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw59P8j81VexcXLrD_Bmpb2VQ=kcsevgcNBntoyZn_Jiqw@mail.gmail.com>

Ooops I meant this to be in response to your last point below...

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:31 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Starlink has described how to peer with them extensively now. It is
> still kind of confusing to me - say I had fios to the business, and a
> AS that met their requirements, I could also somehow dual home that AS
> to my starlink terminal, and it would be a business class service
> required?
>
> https://starlink-enterprise-guide.readme.io/docs/peering-with-starlink
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 1:21 AM David Lang via Starlink

> > SpaceX is diversifying thier offerings, including boats, planes, and very
> > high-performance community gateways.
> >
> > I'd love to see more tech folks supporting this sort of thing.
> >
> > I would especially like to see us put together disaster kits that can take one
> > uplink and spread it around.

The direct site that they were advertising for 1.2 million or so
looked compact enough to stuff into a a C130 transport plane and drop
onto a providers network anywhere, almost overnight, to provide
10Gbit(?) service. I did not get the dimensions of it, but...

>> We've seen SpaceX being willing to donate dishy
> > kits, but being able to spread the hotspot island out from direct wifi range of
> > the dishy to be able to cover a larger area would be worth quite a bit (and
> > don't forget the need for power for the system)

Given that typical usage at ISP peak is about an average of 5Mbit/sec
per household today, mostly driven by 1/6th the users watching
netflix, and starlink achieving download speeds regularly of
300Mbit...

If movie quality is to be compromised to old fashioned 1.5Mbit 720P,
200 households - that can be served by local fiber, wireless bridges,
even 5G, per terminal, over that 70 miles per cell.

For some of the 2B that have nothing today. Early on I had hoped
starlink would enable "a village" to have telephony and local internet
services spread out from there, much like they did in the 90s.
Additional fiber/wireless bridges can expand that island outside the
cell.

It remains unclear to me how many terminals can be stuffed efficiently
together.

> >
> > David Lang_______________________________________________
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> > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>
>
>
> --
> https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos



-- 
https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-27  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-26 18:12 [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published Nitinder Mohan
2024-02-26 19:49 ` J Pan
2024-02-26 19:53 ` Dave Taht
2024-02-26 22:19 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-02-26 23:19   ` David Lang
2024-02-27  0:16     ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-02-27  1:13       ` David Lang
2024-02-27  2:33         ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-02-27  6:21           ` David Lang
2024-02-27  7:31             ` [Starlink] starlink business peering Dave Taht
2024-02-27  7:38               ` David Lang
2024-02-27  7:42               ` Dave Taht [this message]
2024-02-27  8:08                 ` David Lang
2024-02-27 11:15             ` [Starlink] Comprehensive Measurement Study on Starlink Performance Published Ulrich Speidel
2024-02-27 14:02               ` Nitinder Mohan

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