From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x436.google.com (mail-pf1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD453CB40 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x436.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6b77ab73c6fso2605805b3a.1 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:38:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698608300; x=1699213100; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=M2UblxuwPPDXXRV1bosgD8nmZEVdQ8saX6KtDVfC6uw=; b=fkRu7U2/YELC280HJH9yFhwGIsHfKRjyNrXMj4Drr7qZkQMitxUVPLtHsjnLvh1WAa Jl3XV07XJtxVrk88ne5gvA0atze4GU2pdvgVRfszJPv4qSI3vfU75MOYe4jDTMfoqZY+ 0o3jfdvm3F7nlRllfvTZi8I6eYXMZLF+joKqo0/Yt+vGRTUi5ELYiCNji+MZCV/RmlIc NMSDbh2Aepq+tlrdHfwZ2gL8edV7cb8PnjZRjQDxWX1oTIMXyShiOVGGpVeke7PCHn8k nKdxnxZkiG33yD88sGGh2pNsCdB0x+TvzdaL6V7rliG/6dVZjtVcbcHbyUadH7nCSVIk Kn9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698608300; x=1699213100; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=M2UblxuwPPDXXRV1bosgD8nmZEVdQ8saX6KtDVfC6uw=; b=BHU2lTDmMqmRp2NhxTfKSPNVsodJBPfkhLXv118/Ui8nppD3b4ebJAELOIyt+MjeXB Ub2qLIRGkIZWKFRpLObefmmxSpxdA8nHG69HeepPXpRgLF/w2aD2mxBDyeWZqXrfR5A+ KXmCnHoNOaDjRjNWH4we4DYi3McZf3TUokwWuBIDzNF5wSvi2Q5fxiMMdV8Gbd6WDpxG B7lKwsXl3OOYKJoU82Fk3W8zs6esVty8hVCDOLCf4aw5iW83fnkGa1tAmBBu1DxTP0y6 5sHtPK5RpGo3UvDDwQVeCCoYOlAZCHx1cVfbIh9UzUsZ5mnRF91TBVuahJvJKVJncTOe RaUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxCXNurAiPlaGj7P/mxO+5ePuHAagIidAm6dXke8R8hTgKw2Zcw 2Zh6X1AGKVJc88A9GzSjSaCYRO4vQHvVFoyCEisEcOJN+Xs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFzNqIdqAvd/+ng7rpjeR8FwtXDQ+lfT1t4VlLAM0Eg0dYOaSzi6ibZyENqxmEyWsJZZ9qDFlWSGXE0FaM4zOM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:26ec:b0:6be:c6f7:f9fd with SMTP id p44-20020a056a0026ec00b006bec6f7f9fdmr13892461pfw.11.1698608300055; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:38:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 12:38:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: the keyboard of geoff goodfellow Cc: Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doing so. X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:38:21 -0000 I remember how twitter cheered on the "Arab Spring" 2010-2012- apparently unaware of what happened in the "Prague Spring", and how it ended. For those of you that do not know that history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:26=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht wro= te: > > I think that the internet should stay up, connecting people to people, > through all the conflicts we may ever have. The mails kept running - > although censored - all through world war two - the red cross, allowed > by all sides, to keep it's relief missions running, the churches > (mostly) doing their job to console the weary... > > Many other orgs, like the ITU, and the IETF, are committed to the > continued free exchange of information, no matter what. > > https://www.itu.int/en/about/Pages/default.aspx > > I am happy to see a worldwide ISP committed to the same principles. > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:07=E2=80=AFAM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow = via > Starlink wrote: > > > > =E2=9E=94=E2=9E=94https://twitter.com/dburbach/status/17186383488125956= 60 > > > > -- > > Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com > > living as The Truth is True > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > > -- > Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.h= tml > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos