From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0DC23B29E for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 16:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id t4so5292147wmj.5 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 13:32:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=uW1zgRJiDEbS2MbFTeTzTmGTc1w8HwcfqTpDKTWGrAc=; b=QcJCqdoVJ2YXGuHTS2y10eV7Pkv1XQLveNlE1NFYcb1DzIDxRP/npQko4QhtLKdOWc QLAwraluqfymPwZsqsF9Sr0cK8hA5REQvJFvJRbvNIdUMfPPckzsFTbvdMs8weH71ceA 83XDsPwb6rmjgbRRp1Vdg/+nI6b5eivbY1bhLI/VH4h4a2EjYqFdvle0GsaRsRwKl0Hi g6xXdg4khDmMI+tX6z/UGoQYZlwinS57PscbHVIvFetZECopkLEt/FcA+RzGo8rlmGuy VQ9BWjECtxD7IWHYB9oCcYdR1+9TIoQ9E5vX7zAE4kVQDHD6FOVDqfIFcgzJuCQKWnnK aE4g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=uW1zgRJiDEbS2MbFTeTzTmGTc1w8HwcfqTpDKTWGrAc=; b=tWM35w4dfY87+nKrjauiV+bk+C7Q2itQ2yrNmXkhBJt0bz+L3lZuJCRoAeOhVQIUlu 4yOynN3KYXklo/I+qnnVG7YX1igd1p4daSSOh7rlOJzrRdl+R59e7l4EX5B5zCdlB3by WO7m+p0AgR/lNlmrduYNmydV/tz5uVosvhxApiHZ/J+0UNxDWyE+n8tleq0mC+0/f0iv 8VEiGgWJLLnBQXYFNz9P5a4adLYcRuc0zT2YRGY4EFAvlRiIyt2Sm8OncUCWA1XYUROv wUX8AH+V+/5vTOtL+pz9ZGRmjUpHghZchKal+utfFO/o5CFY70m4MO9fZ5YsaWrxd56X dZDg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3EKvhyQpFJulhiqSju1XFeBS1ME0Tjssq56xcUaYlmWqieZb5x VsyBzd9GInx15RM3CaGeqwbmIRSyxUiyYLv85yYC1Z0G X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM54TGr+AV0x8wEQVKsvuNkwcqh41WXQuUFSQDE6gehzwGFipM9FkrYs+vP8wT6k54ZnLlQa+yrbN89KaInAB3E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:1da2:b0:3b4:856a:162c with SMTP id p34-20020a05600c1da200b003b4856a162cmr333547wms.28.1664224366590; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <060F7695-D48E-413C-9501-54ECC651ABEB@cable.comcast.com> <07C46DD5-7359-410E-8820-82B319944618@alum.mit.edu> <00fb11bb-74cc-6512-a890-6a4a6efcaa4f@candelatech.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 13:32:33 -0700 Message-ID: To: Bruce Perens Cc: Ben Greear , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:32:47 -0000 Getting more data over time is why I formed this list. I especially wanted to see the ISL stuff go up, and have multiple sites oing testing between themselves over ipv6... I like the idea of a call to action, but I'd like to pick on 5g, and also light a fire under the cable providers (other than comcast) that haven't enabled docsis-3,1 pie yet.