From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12f.google.com (mail-il1-x12f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E441B3B2A4 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 11:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12f.google.com with SMTP id k4so5760939ili.4 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 08:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcMIE2SfMzxfSy8vw1eiJTRcUsrprsRC+AXoLQWYrx4=; b=nomLib/yqwRHmK44ZAUZuEuMxOgWs0a/Znar4EAAjIs4nxpeiD5psnvoSE4EYdEbO2 /QORJUpBMzengOJFNWRVdRtZn8oVvonCCbL23A3tOVaegOHo/hQBvyR0WvhHKkrKs3nZ 2V9SABxvghT51I6VSjWfoQzgjfQ5QN3kGfaswwqjnYLgnAsNkeIzdpypGtwED0C4syc3 hmnpBNK0F9SzVsFwAYHHbJZEX8m+I740DdRNL3BiqA7ECYCPFIi5hiW/dY1hTQ5GydNr taP1ot3Z8vqBnw5HkT4qAC1ywYoNiTz2DVXvsG8bsLk0sT2XZsO2eJj2Oh531oJvx9uB 9ueg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcMIE2SfMzxfSy8vw1eiJTRcUsrprsRC+AXoLQWYrx4=; b=LXG6ZdkOog7COVaIw69QhMVY6nePN9sjbTSPGwfwH2zxEdz7a3atSpxH3zrEKoaysD 9BWcjZebylS5UdMsY9Yxp5z6WWhf2PPFLqpgBeipCAeDmwSsZelJX5h8PH6R/Z4N02zZ WhS+UEJCN2eZSud2ABUpi4iFD3NHJruIudwiMcxe40HOCLRDuSWhiGzU5UwiK2BwVPeS BUsCbUPOA1gLE+hWGCrRyo6+TaEnhke37oGGoH7brjme5p0zBCzqvkWdGXFTuPyxAWcx yKDU1tZ7kgQ8QBnoUCTVTEfm3q2WxPRwR1w74dRk2AAgkgtpmKXE9bwhp/pKvNvnZsv+ RvFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/zYV9ExA2PfMJjvX92/8ui6oX+M8zltoKoco6NWcNcmo7d2aR nAfSBb/eEAZtqE7smUIPjVvP0Z/RaVhToX8WxsM5lIavcWo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJydGQddz0H5tVb9WYTp9xgALxCuyjEV0t9stqZ9VcpI/PWy3+BBfw430MQIO90ECQNd9WMb6C8ARuo+OJutTGQ= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d60e:: with SMTP id w14mr3099752ilm.0.1621351245810; Tue, 18 May 2021 08:20:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 08:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] teardown of the starlink provided "router" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 15:20:47 -0000 I would really like someone to disassemble, and take photographs of the chipset and design of the starlink provided "router", which is proving to be such a disaster, and put those up somewhere. Youtube videos seem to be popular... we could do a kvetchy one of those? I have really goofed in that my visit to the starlink site I'd assumed the dishy was all there was! At one level I'm deliriously happy that that router can be junked, and with a decent OS, ipv6 etc can be enabled, as well as many other interesting local networking services. At another level I'm grumpy as to have to throw out all the bufferbloat related testing to date. In my dream world, the dishy would do ethernet flow control at a "single transmit upstream buffer" granularity, below 4ms, and emit pause frames that an fq_codel upstream could deal with, but that still is not enough, accurate parsing of the dishy's actual link rates up and down would allow for controlling the sch_cake queues tighter. --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC