From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oo1-xc29.google.com (mail-oo1-xc29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682C33B29E; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oo1-xc29.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-5f1eb278d85so1053947eaf.3; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 08:05:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732982724; x=1733587524; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8siOgVYM2BM/wPiRgf8I6sm8vhO/5X9m0SAL4mloILc=; b=EWOUXP4Yzo2LMjr2SXUOH+kbVrDxJjOIpjMf+ZkWzmWZFtFz8G0t9d3dvY1DtZfbTc TiOWvq62e4253RInAGFt4FL2T8NC0dKl3C8pAG0E9NheCCTO/JLShBHY2oU7PdMsxSSk cx8lIwLEVleKj2LibRRlGRjnSV+TBsww7Grf5WGaPsEtiU0GvDGajauPAGkV8hFYr2AC 5xpE3m30mPRukhDfhvpllvBABI2Mjp0crBVeEsq2g/4LZ/g2arr0wZ4tGqpoLweOVuh1 7kheyiaf79k2rHBq3I7fB9vYYW69xztGIkpwGwBk3f8Dxz8kNfF4IEng5J4nhLbgPCj6 Hyeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732982724; x=1733587524; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8siOgVYM2BM/wPiRgf8I6sm8vhO/5X9m0SAL4mloILc=; b=nQNuyo7uK6QvFJYGFunbcMOjYqe/EmxizrrPSevYb84qzVZEYr0zHwXo0+Lb9NtvqH RlyQKsjcGvHlJtSlLcXW6XZdb5fCjb9VjurKc183WoX5Sn8dQOqerKxijqBegDqnWCnC ZyoEruW0vpv2b3e9Z0IZLGigGYdS1V/5liVsnW2Hj/oHNc4/8xzo12Is7fHQ1ZKzLG1J rbvS2OQs8dPFEKo/hfjDtHcgsZgSpQiYmZGRy36phnqRR78H3xZk9DI2Af+8aRilySP3 3dPsZ+0690/kZ47ACplJzY+Ozs0HZlq5f53abXzUibUqgAYARM4yZ7Dcm4cmgaoNH8ON KXbg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUoy1bh5yWcObauBgZR5ok5Yd/ow0g8Kltredyq9hokLUCTYfiny/3N2/Ze0tzK3n53DfmbnOHJdg==@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxWlti+begnYd/A700mezQ15cVoBXEe0NWgo6aqAWYjs9I/OgXv wOOV95xNmgINE4yVOgkO5C7y8QrC+MdGYGfTNDsKjzJXcXQg+iY10VVc+HxNVFV5PqnKbF0lcIZ gKjUiwdFDlW5tR0TFLb0k4f5Fan2zXMRe X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuTvNgcwns3UCExj5Pd+YKKIQsJHds3T7cIDyg0DMQA05oESBsxJmAFe+g5VdS x+/olaQIBIhBcAAltKnretps10gK0JpaCL5RK5uOdy2J9jkV4eg9YrY75Mo1dElYHPg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGxWwticUn2mKlcct5tB9xknw4Eu6AoFS2maCEpcDKZxnYRTyjOufsnBCTIAoC/GJ6KTgbrxKyyguYI56O8XQg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6820:1f07:b0:5f1:e9db:9709 with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-5f20a191bfamr11030032eaf.5.1732982724004; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 08:05:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 08:05:10 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] I don't know if there is a new FCC NOI... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:05:25 -0000 About the internet this year? In looking over again, this magnificent document from last year... https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY= 4vH4/edit?tab=3Dt.0 I don't know what I would change. Although cited 16 times in the resulting fcc overview, it didn't change the overarching conclusions any. resubmit with a brief cover letter? get more sigs? I would point at the metrics starlink adopted as a model, perhaps: https://api.starlink.com/public-files/StarlinkLatency.pdf and the L4S trial at comcast... It's really bothersome that users still have to go through the contortions this spectrum cable user had to go through last week, and the rest, helpless. https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/1h0reph/comment/lzgdo0j/ --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos