From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52b.google.com (mail-pg1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70D2F3B29E for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 13:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-53482b44007so1477854a12.2 for ; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:44:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1688233496; x=1690825496; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=awejLKFBQ3r0tMMhhp1aqEa/xYLgycX4TaTNAnEJTW4=; b=cQ5cwT3edu9fYi21IEyT+6bBHuWPE/SchEappE0JDsWhIxL1NUw6Z3JwRBBIzz2Cx2 5F0fw/e9k234E1F9ET0zwWZ5B9nKhVrpWp78aUP/OMvjWyTfm1c3lCHz62X2spXNZs96 oF4j5pjULscCbRG3fFpMvyKtYyjOtqqy/bZB7vHPQbJclAn4AW+cHOpnNA4VMpx1mnPt hOqxokvkg6yXXmh4Gal4ksZEErvHUkel/yPo1cQRAfGidh3zAmSj3L0VbcPJ7XZt1/Oj rtfhmST9k0mlOc7Iz/eYO91xqy0eEAeCv5ZXx7kja+WdFInP3GomVlIKDHojLS0nDCO5 1xFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688233496; x=1690825496; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=awejLKFBQ3r0tMMhhp1aqEa/xYLgycX4TaTNAnEJTW4=; b=g+n9/W5Y6OY6QMjEGy2ciKGNG8MTGUOpJQjxo/NCETFdxoDVCEdVjGxmpdtTjNeFvJ aN++aOZMpJn3SJvjSwzF7Ug9s90qXoB2HwPvfTi971GBARQ/PHShzvGKaGh075rInK3v L3CPMCT5CEH5LJCFfHKySKRyKEkhtP2bnyxgNzomP3fBY/9DZaf7GXc2z1EwKFQMBaDo fzAX2q6Y4hFgl4Z3NEFEmEimwavzCgdMY+N0PEHnOgCrfQ8AzFGJK3Soz5HpSFxY0Oco d4JB+rUPhG+BCGOWSSGv6C7DQZ7peW/TMgU50LjNXaXbdKfy1TmnIlEVDtcM6SSF1Qsl fzog== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLbOGsmcZazgZQmX4R23CnqdJEwtuZnw+FX5ZYUIKVXqD0/Ws/49 etzww03SriyXTBeI4EYh5txx24nGNYiQ1TlmelI62WOqZP9LWg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlHHhtOxKUqO/ntG00Z855huD9S5Q+UfO4ptZ/YojJinFazt70/Cgqxx+q8ME7hoDel+MRKUvTv+OwQFeEtAMGs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1992:b0:263:a98f:b769 with SMTP id 18-20020a17090a199200b00263a98fb769mr684635pji.23.1688233495695; Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:44:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 11:44:43 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] the book, russian spring, by Norman Spinrad X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2023 17:44:57 -0000 OT: It is far from pure science fiction (it is rife with sex and politics) but with a lead set of characters deeply involved in an alternate future of space and world politics that never happened, but is still eerily reminiscent of the world we live in today. https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Spring-Norman-Spinrad/dp/1490449310 Len Kleinrock reminds me of Nathan Wolfowitz, a card shark that rises to be president of the usa. In part also, it describes a future near war over the ukraine. I am a lot like the lead character, and my ex-gf, his wife. I have not read anything else by spinrad before, but I think I will queue up more. I just finished reading it, on a beach in Nicaragua, feeling the relief I still always feel, knowing there are no nukes (probably) pointed at me, for a change. You'll laugh, you'll cry, it was the best book I have read in ages, capturing fully the ennui I felt about the us space program in the late 80s up until a few years ago, and some of my current fears for it moving forward. He gets quite a lot of future technology wrong (no internet, people still use telephones, spaceplanes dominate - the book was first published in 1991), but it doesn=C2=B4t matter. --=20 Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227= 111937/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos