From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x102e.google.com (mail-pj1-x102e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBEC83CB37; Thu, 5 Oct 2023 15:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x102e.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-27762a19386so940306a91.2; Thu, 05 Oct 2023 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1696533290; x=1697138090; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IXv5f1LDI/sZxR3w8W5slPrBRDoElq1ZrUPIWOQvCvk=; b=PT+yImAl3o1J5cZiqUR0XbscGkRAeGrpYpZ5XpkL56QPSZKqbqKRd8xGdyipqnF1uR vbzj5LPTR7Vk1wJHpmKUDQlH0gJEJr9sPcGsxoXvjoQQ5+YW2Vh9aomqjolbnlWPu2YR NZq8LF6fkmLN2PMcUFahPspkgvVweQev12A+uSjLAmxRkQ7RVL9G9LadH9MEcdymlwVz wBp7WX1rZPoZMYM2MrbQQX+MT0oSqm95DR9EsBxmV8wfb30sra68qqe9jkV+ImRw4LrH z3UTCAupHWzOQAcRCuxaHE3+d4zgjf6mIEZ0UXZj7I8sl3QqHdIVdnJYSL9z3Yj02Iur fX1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1696533290; x=1697138090; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=IXv5f1LDI/sZxR3w8W5slPrBRDoElq1ZrUPIWOQvCvk=; b=T3Z2aQDlghs+mle3tpqUqBZNZGjZE4qfCBMTZnvPOTzw8FSeILUSxicc2QO6OT84/P m041Y0v+6F3gt822sLs7dpT43bzYsqSBnkbUioFxWl4YCs1TQbKfT6wKGHqHBxHxDjhw jR2g0EKzRlDXYCaxWuQ8nxzQChBPfxa8ufLqhrL7V3ajy5kWfotLSejsrcipB8v/WpER tJ6B4ldN/7khDLy8LzpQqmJJtj2TYP60+rDqsHt2BQOJTZlqNgelhK2mS+DX2GPHE+QI 3r106hHZo+Pg8gFNxA0EYDdySu0d/GanztZp0s3Q8ucR8Fx8S83IIqk62rESjgvVywer Wfyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yykx9bO37GqXclzb+g9PZ6of9IW+SR2sAUPSIstP0WpklTn+IaU AEXUgn2mEx4h7vDjpRWsftMsIq77d5/nOZVUQgTjnizU X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGBRuDo/Nn3WiFN2GgzyFCqkAJ258ylAs59evH+mFbjNnWXT35/H7FmQGtCanYA5+7YsZu3JFOSaI5Fo+E/Mvg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:cd05:b0:274:9409:bbca with SMTP id d5-20020a17090acd0500b002749409bbcamr5545797pju.3.1696533290334; Thu, 05 Oct 2023 12:14:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 12:14:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= , Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] lists.bufferbloat.net is back up X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 19:14:52 -0000 The increase in traffic volume here triggered a spamcop alert (when I did reach out to all my existing lists), automatically triggered a complaint, a 3 day holding period that I ignored since it was just the one report, which then shutdown the server we were on, until I managed to express fully to a human to fix it an hour ago. Honestly... this seems a quite reasonable approach - and probably not rapid enough in an era where a million vms can be spun up and down in seconds. I would like to thank those humans at linode that overrode the automation! And also, if there is anyone more up to date on modern email standards today (such as dmarc), and knows how to deploy, please get back to me privately. I treasure email for multiple reasons (and things like netiquette) - my counter example of not wanting a forum would the short life and death of google+. Everyone retains their own copies of all that was said, it used to be easily indexed, and various other things left unsolved by modern tech of the moment. It can be better by using better email clients, and rigorous netiquette... and responses are not limited to 1k or less in size, although many might prefer our discussions be shorter, not longer. And for all that, I miss usenet. --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos