From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x533.google.com (mail-pg1-x533.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::533]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D36B03B29E for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 13:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x533.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-56b0c5a140dso1951242a12.0 for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 10:50:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694195456; x=1694800256; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8XVlB6m0aDgr7Y/PM9n9uBKyc9e3MK3BF5LWBbsFLwo=; b=qDAggI15uohXEHuhS2gVWbbHbejopZtycT1HbEw4SS/gASkSSg7dKfR75oGXb+F1Qh SCs2eHU6fbs96QRsuQ9lyGDrfnIbr1icyCs0i57P+y+FX5k544IyEg22aNVKxUaRYyiF CF2wgPrKU2ugqWJKgFCTBoyJYUJunwVkDSJoH9qd6JgbEekmmLQ2R9+ZSIiIu+ev++vy V3J7adu6BAheLIDuOQoRuqb0m0+7VCvcyG5959f1SxHkfa+DlYQ/se72ndNuOvg/TZAn 9gh8QuiA/o0qVyVQd/519qtl9iXjfG/c9cueIWUeAbKvFGfqxHqnQQ9obbss3FuKgq+D 97gQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694195456; x=1694800256; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8XVlB6m0aDgr7Y/PM9n9uBKyc9e3MK3BF5LWBbsFLwo=; b=nDwOhYZBdELbd3KC7or5lyJx+xDPg3gVcUk2ywHhW9tNeujKtSRFL433ejJdnaFbRn cKhHIrM2ANKVbaD4YAtBOq/UYSQp2mObFmjyLwUqvbr+EgoVwVHuUML06lByQwS453jI 0uDenxJB7+wWR7gu2LBUpAgTUrqDg5GyYt9BEtBnxOO/LLaF9CCTXIN921BAmme/D+xG AtupJqVrUr1jt+OMEfkg1VHLsibPTQ9DRRMTd0apACAFdrUJyTNd3ywIy9Fddhs2SLhc 2XFmSUQR4BR7oByD5pu6OBWUwCqXuLbMwedJc3dDMxlFUEg5OHI3Z/IyeHXL+g8yFRty kL5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyK7mV9kbPjMnEG4rKzwqtVUj3WDEMQWH3+vZGmCO+0MsdxlQHg HQRRK2wGRo8cn1hHydL4c11vkV8+y25gR42bMPe7do66 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFF6zMqk4EPeG/EdRqo1TyUn5+4HylU418+imMMEVGkxrjfDvIDIf+Iy9cw/lUuzBd43pAAvuDaFQQnyfO/+xc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:13c9:b0:12f:dc31:a71e with SMTP id ho9-20020a056a2013c900b0012fdc31a71emr2862305pzc.56.1694195455677; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 10:50:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <67ppo4pn-9450-7564-3p0q-4qr449743q3s@ynat.uz> In-Reply-To: <67ppo4pn-9450-7564-3p0q-4qr449743q3s@ynat.uz> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 10:50:44 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000050dc440604dc9ea4" Subject: Re: [Starlink] cross layer queue management X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 17:50:56 -0000 --00000000000050dc440604dc9ea4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 10:46=E2=80=AFAM David Lang wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2023, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > > > How likely is it for this reconfiguration interval to remain a thing? > > given the realities of orbital mechanics, I expect periodic > reconfiguration to > be a permanent fixture of LEO connections. The period may change (when > lower > orbits start being used) so it may not be the predictable 15 min interval > it is > today. > > getting ntpd on the dishy would be fantastic. pptp would be even better! I was re-reading "eccentric orbits" recently, and the hairy mess of cross connectivity it described at the poles makes my head hurt. Has anyone been attempting measurements from up there? > > David Lang_______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos --00000000000050dc440604dc9ea4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 10:46=E2=80=AF= AM David Lang <david@lang.hm> wr= ote:
On Fri, 8 S= ep 2023, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:

> How likely is it for this reconfiguration interval to remain a thing?<= br>
given the realities of orbital mechanics, I expect periodic reconfiguration= to
be a permanent fixture of LEO connections. The period may change (when lowe= r
orbits start being used) so it may not be the predictable 15 min interval i= t is
today.

getting ntpd on the dishy would be fantastic.

pptp would be even better!

I was re-reading &qu= ot;eccentric orbits" recently, and the hairy mess of cross connectivit= y it described at the poles makes my head hurt. Has anyone been attempting = measurements from up there?=C2=A0

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