From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2a.google.com (mail-io1-xd2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412F53B2A4 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2a.google.com with SMTP id e144so10709039iof.3 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:01:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JrYK5YpzsjyGqxKV2ED173fgSak3um5bxM5MA7TRWt8=; b=nkwUx9xZczqOvgzbfqbn8A77BAmYOBNZxTF3uozqbHDdPfL1vTQd0BD0ONGFnW5G58 lsaHLNhujvtpFAKb5Ea+TvofaFj0vKaN4HDwC34h6EtWh/B4xtLNyvUWq7QMcKe/BKM8 pYNyeBsXzk7C4JSXVfSlAXo7iCfHD+rtM2O11Skw1bfG+VfRfRmPtYfXZG7wX999t7Yb 34CdW9RpWoi4XZpEjU0Kvig+yzwmQ7NK09AJLQZYvOoOJc2+kEDj7RHw8mpq3SGQ7v3c nPdCpHTAeM9HvBjhdemvlESD6029ZS3q1p1bMkLaNDrcarD9XY4XSxe+5QAx6gpmcB+H QMzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JrYK5YpzsjyGqxKV2ED173fgSak3um5bxM5MA7TRWt8=; b=HEScGTdqDiNkaWwFhP+XUP/W3sDDPT5SHQe2YhPM9x5yyRjYA+7YVR4EoVaNY/2qJM pHvXbQE3CWfWv4ZLIGQkm6mfeKmqA0ipvm7jXb5qaqot+SC1uFjxoHptjyDFZMx0YbVa aPxkQ3PCLPtcKf25lvcRxXKOGvDKejGgbdzEzytjDGYdp4QKDjnOK+7rF6UHPaaySNcW MuTmpibJ0oCdpb9KkhTGgviL040ecWwo46Gff9tydSMeW1ZoWrBHJICIEkg9k92ap0m8 24ljc6+a5J9jg+NpPkw4HNL+068erInFAe45pjcDmAgEIMi5g8iXxR8MiLV5Z5wCYMIe 2P1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530E9B8n6s1pfHMjHWljQXEcKMCwDIwZDM2yPfKad4GPtek7I2dM RoCnncNUB6euVNKg8hcDksI6beVRRanRoY9NMn+40XWH X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwLM3L6dJDdO53vXBFG+hRgjfiBsqyxb/YfH9KNOMF70z0/iN64YLuw2JnfaSZx828dYPYmmVZademIBEESppI= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9d46:: with SMTP id k6mr5698569iok.55.1635472898523; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:01:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <28034.1635270711@localhost> <8007.1635359366@localhost> <305pr7or-sp7o-n2q5-8016-q7755o67n88@ynat.uz> In-Reply-To: <305pr7or-sp7o-n2q5-8016-q7755o67n88@ynat.uz> From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:01:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Mike Puchol , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] thinking about the laser links again X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 02:01:39 -0000 On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 6:51 PM David Lang wrote: > > As a stunt, I think they will be able to do it fairly soon, using the sat= ellites It would be a great stunt. Even with a few ground hops along the way, they should still be able to establish a speed record. > that they have launched for polar coverage, they just need to time it so = that > they have birds in the right place for a few seconds (and it may not be t= he > lowest latency possible, but as a stunt, who knows how far they could go) > > As a practical thing, a year or two, they need to launch a lot of new bir= ds, and > we don't kno what is holding up the starlink launches the last several mo= nths. Bufferbloat fixes I hope!!! :) > David Lang > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2021, Dave Taht wrote: > > > Anyway, good discussion on this thread!!! but all of you failed to > > answer my humdinger question - *when* will they be able to route a > > packet from new york to tokyo over the laser links? That kind of event > > would be a world network latency record - right up there in > > significance with the first inter-imp comms oct 29 1969: --=20 Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC