From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 950653CB38; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 12:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id d70so10361842iof.7; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:20:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qHS3gZbjc0SP2nCX4pbzPxgv/XMkLcqFrp20bf+Qm8I=; b=BwHPcaNXRAdzDBJgp6g0bZkAjOmrVUOCcoQNGojUNUA/DDG6TkEFWejBhjIYbmPKlP frDMA7pYOH4ziOIgo6T9G5UElkLwAtOYKetfcrPjAMVbXGQWZCtg2NuU6ly03UgJXwK4 n3oLD865g/yJRz+Z3jvLnRFsXZiU/8oN47+WNob/Ft8mFL3GbARDY6m1sFCnO7YAa+dn ONh3mnATEDK8jLevZZaKaTIIUXEtPyGPoSJRz266I+hTqhNiQWMRWg1Epzz/4k0YPFsr RILnAMDyudZiEzXtWrPqN4A5olul5twRWeYMAV7jJpq8C5yXj/lRG6duO842akgLg9nL H0rQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qHS3gZbjc0SP2nCX4pbzPxgv/XMkLcqFrp20bf+Qm8I=; b=4XJ7XQGLBRpUdA4SEtbfa2eHongNU2bTSegbgFtn3/ED/yEjNmF6Csnb8aA+CVLOQ9 fg8NMVcVV8D9UUjPrNCju3HTCwGTBE5oH9fvJ7SyCCJPYX9r+hAr9HV/bq+OhH7Pfq2i vyRoAvg/COulWG4yQAaRw2dxOQVnGNKetEigrt5qerjGVCqilfvk7SloBM2fiaVWVjyS lyH8wnUvQMhYpBnHRDeDSZwzOOeO+JubB6yedWu0leL1mmCuwI+xhPaMgWO0/NDV+38j SK2y1L97FFYyeON9W/uowOEli3CE6+IWeaEVHcEkLt6h5SiHkmFRqbCz02rM59KVitFH AAkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530qlMzwUxIZh6qWdwIZ6iox8CgAUw8ajTjCesNindQSa22iBb// FThmI6BgY0hK7gYr6cn/WsH3b2Ed0sGWDA2sC9ApsULAHj0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmYVu5n0XSJzhI5LPugDeAvs4/5uke4QM8HhfqPeJpQXHJDjT9eNAw5c/kodEv2FyLWZosHtswfLGI76FZ+9c= X-Received: by 2002:a02:a816:: with SMTP id f22mr5574656jaj.81.1636129220553; Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 09:20:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] measurement lab research fellowship call 2022 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 16:20:21 -0000 One of the things that Matt Mathis pointed out in the associated workshop ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGW5C24YKAh8&t=3D850s ) is how important new tools for measuring QoE "not cry wolf"; that they point to the point of actual congestion and other problems. Topics of interest include but are not limited to: Relation between QoE and network metrics like bandwidth/latency/loss Novel metrics that can be computed on existing NDT data New measurements/experiments that could be deployed on M-Lab to diagnose network bottlenecks Characterizing paths measured by M-Lab clients; stability of paths, relation to paths of interest (eg., paths to content) or network characterization Proposals for new experiments to be hosted on the M-Lab platform Identification of biases in M-Lab data Implementing ideas introduced during M-Lab=E2=80=99s Community Call on Latency, Bufferbloat and Responsiveness and/or the IAB workshop on Network Quality For more details see: see: https://www.measurementlab.net/blog/research-fellowship-call/ --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC