From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E4B43B29E for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 15:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id eo6-20020a05600c82c600b003ee5157346cso2398272wmb.1 for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680982729; x=1683574729; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=lijmh+wkv9bW/GAgk3V5aQUGZ6ZNrkY3FEWYX5jTpZM=; b=MrDg+udNwKHLSJo9NzA0Xrni5e/Knn/xFSBURwRqU4UBBRHIZKcz5d5EWJ3FT0Sufg uwIb6dK/wLsssp/pckjYUKTm4Gr2s6H+Sr7iuNDT9tcTufBI3bQ6hwJl0e9pMhvNJUHu +SCapy5kTQ9beAym++dWEbSK+scsAzhp5rf7OQQNyDLjleJ0EHBXkJuALKO7Smylxp3w YlCYOi4t28It33w/QeoJGvesdxFQR3JXwniErP2JK/vxmTBlLxatsMqJn95b7a2EQ4FU M208GigzBk+WB/v7eb0jmcckGy+MA4ku7wacDhAYaYPDdczWpwHPaMRgmizE4XHqawcs pzwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680982729; x=1683574729; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lijmh+wkv9bW/GAgk3V5aQUGZ6ZNrkY3FEWYX5jTpZM=; b=LmhD+w8EnPRNCEyULkRFMJ91uK5RQrFYJjHzHde4AVkUDoe2Zqijm45r0N5ywLlsiq WAglsw5Eo1s6JloAcUJuZbNYTaHBU6LaRJ+PO5JeGBCE0lyoLVn8wJEGmYQNS58zLTUp xdHIKrVKj9M2w7vSinZ1xCg0WA8ZbmVrgdp6ZEeil2cjqfDMPfHyz88WoTpzSOqOSaER 4t16JzCXvFrK1DcfeXSI/WTvHwKa+4X7399mWe3IYjVKddExY7bmxL8gy5D9Xzo2EaeH SEU5Uu3x+rdCvCC5wESFv6qzG14Tk8hMzSoXYiFgvRR+yL1LFFUJrolCMumF8ju6ypvt NswQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9e9ulp4L6LxoykykfEs+G90Siun5SdGfhuXdQzAFj1Wd6hbmP7h zTpTQekE+C1EVRznB9qZoK0/6DdS+bWP64mSqTVqzs+YvrU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350Zfk+agZTrenISnY/kJrHVcEjF0Kb60fmnIY06D9f2DuXX7NEOcMSGe+YxbVBvWDHhEmGo3h+Leg/8Wn+n8gSM= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4c19:0:b0:3ed:2937:90e8 with SMTP id z25-20020a1c4c19000000b003ed293790e8mr1164347wmf.0.1680982729477; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <41ecacc1-9a34-8853-fbfe-f0e6add5e330@auckland.ac.nz> <145rq1sp-80n0-5q4n-sn82-364rn1n782s4@ynat.uz> <9305.1680979046@localhost> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 12:38:38 -0700 Message-ID: To: Hesham ElBakoury Cc: Michael Richardson , Dave Taht via Starlink , George Michaelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 19:38:51 -0000 On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink wrote: > > > Google Spinoff Aalyira salvaged Project Loon technology for US military. > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-spinoff-aalyria-salvages-p= roject-loon-technology-for-the-us-military/amp > > Hesham I did not know that. Loon did one of the greatest post-mortems of any project I had ever read, 60+ pages long, and I cannot find it now. (I love having you all on this list!) > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink wrote: >> >> David Lang via Starlink wrote: >> > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rather than UAV= s) in >> > the last year or two >> >> I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some mo= ney >> and partnered to start it up again. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --=20 AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC