From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] on using and debugging lossless congestion control (RFC3168 ECN)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:47:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6sgcfbf6UF5TrUuFtDaeHguXEPizduebvqJOh-d6dXMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160.1624287984@localhost>
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:06 AM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It came up recently that a lot of folk don't like the idea of dropping
> > packets as a congestion
> > control mechanism. Like loss or not... the fundamental paper on this
> > subject is Van Jacobson and Mike Karels:
>
> > "On congestion avoidance and control"
>
> > http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs244/papers/CongestionControl.pdf
>
> I saved this post a long time ago.
> http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/humour/vanj-enet-posting.txt
That was a *great* piece of history thx. And he referenced greg
chesson's work on XTP,
( https://grainger.illinois.edu/alumni/distinguished/9560 )
Greg was an early consultant to the bufferbloat project...
he sadly passed before we ever had a chance to jam together.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9795462
> There is another one about how he crashed Interop, which I don't know where I
> put.
More folk should have seen van's codel preso at ietf 84. It was the
very very early days of webrtc.
https://archive.org/details/video1_20191129
>
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2021-06-23 1:20 ` Doc Searls
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