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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] some post Starship launch thoughts
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 08:27:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6xAdh4EpKxLcwGV6MR4C7quVMxnxtHomYhAfrpC0fSfQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26657.1682349381@localhost>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:16 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>     > Everyone wants a water deluge system and flame diverter, but I was
>     > thinking perhaps liquid nitrogen, as a natural byproduct of LOX
>
> Yeah, but how do you put one on the moon or mars?
> Lower gravity helps, sure, ...

Well, the concrete did not shatter at 1/2 thrust...

>     > Landing and then taking off from the moon or mars look rather
>     > problematic at the moment!
>
> Do the rockets do the swoop and flip on mars and the moon?

SSTO in those cases. Presently.

> This part I just don't understand.
> (But then, the entire mars mission is fraught with dozens of missing things,
> starting with radiation shielding)

I was a very lonely asteroid exploration advocate at the launch,
futilely engaging with the "Mars Firsters" once again, as I have been
since the 80s.

* Gravity sucks.
* NEO exploration requires less delta-v to get there and much less to
go elsewhere or return.
* You can use launch tethers to get off the class of  "fast rotators",
especially.

>
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-24 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-24 14:12 Dave Taht
2023-04-24 15:16 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-24 15:27   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2023-04-24 15:37     ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-24 15:49       ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-24 19:03   ` David Lang
2023-04-24 19:16 ` David Lang
2023-04-25  0:46   ` Eugene Chang
2023-04-25  2:20     ` David Lang
2023-04-25 22:31       ` Bruce Perens
2023-04-25 23:04         ` Eugene Chang
2023-04-25 23:22           ` David Lang
2023-04-25 23:55             ` Eugene Y Chang
2023-04-26 19:14         ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-25  1:01 ` Bruce Perens
2023-04-26 19:29 ` Dave Taht
2023-04-26 20:05   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-04-26 20:41   ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-26 21:05     ` Eugene Y Chang
2023-04-26 22:15       ` Mark Handley
2023-04-26 22:29         ` [Starlink] Fondag Bruce Perens
2023-04-26 22:32           ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-26 22:35           ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-26 23:09             ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-27  3:42             ` David Lang
2023-04-26 21:10     ` [Starlink] some post Starship launch thoughts Dave Taht
2023-04-26 21:26       ` Eugene Chang
2023-04-26 22:31       ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-26 22:38         ` Bruce Perens
2023-04-26 23:25         ` Eugene Chang
2023-04-27  3:44         ` David Lang
2023-04-27 14:09           ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-24 16:02 David Fernández
     [not found] <mailman.798.1682383621.1222.starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2023-04-25 20:40 ` David P. Reed
2023-04-25 21:31   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2023-04-25 22:37     ` David Lang
2023-05-11 16:24       ` Sauli Kiviranta
2023-04-25 22:33   ` David Lang

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