From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oo1-xc34.google.com (mail-oo1-xc34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBA303B2A4 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2023 22:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oo1-xc34.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-573249e73f8so2218228eaf.1 for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 19:49:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694314139; x=1694918939; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JjROq358AmpkZtUd3kRF2lxkRQ1u1ix1450JgynCc78=; b=HQUkztODhMImRNG1yy2bf7NdPleJu1DDfyHzNYaCBcGXVM//Bba3d+Jfbl+Mfe4/PB fCKN0cpB94zrE5r2hmeOwH1HMADn1URpccySSIwsSXcLaDdWNEOVsG6XaeTiNhVzA/EL KzizaXpdsZ8gyrQsrSJVrSNNlCSjgxXGBPok8AWdg4RXHyoy/rDbkju74by2Tw8sg1IL 7cBOMNrnZeOsQn/CruZ0F+L+v8X+TcLXL0crDubWLq0WdTFQj33QnW5eiTHecV7RAxbb HyzTfj5nluOqbY2BcDj/woSnKVOJXAxFFAVrU6IxuOliJRiuu2GcUfP2az2Wi6VZuRAW b+iQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694314139; x=1694918939; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JjROq358AmpkZtUd3kRF2lxkRQ1u1ix1450JgynCc78=; b=iysVlDoJIVBEayOOicBvcNza4wB/nuLDT5ezhWsoQ5UGtV6MM0aMaKizTp3ZQHOlOA cKJw5/GoQgKw+vCrs7/RhdhZ745pjdzWLB8t/AwOMVCr8+/w+4/DeX0GTM552ib6fuUA Vq4oWxoC6xMzOpVhanXDUohfBm9dOPgquPexmx6rKDoA6JDmmJyfpWzbp4nh2cCo4Sz2 ZrNUdgUJyaLdvpp/NpQHwktyIR6UFHgl41gRAeBi/CEadaEVL2DaBoPLTIjFlH9HvNpJ FCTxPBg6K3ULoU7nDaynQuIvHtt8NcdlkDaORpQezLdgkd/aGDQE2abS6lQtyTx3eR5C nfDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxbkZylAATSgCgK1I85raZvpaC3n969YqYl0ON1tXHtNr54Q6r0 8z8UBhQHr0TbDrDwLbMa8/0n/xbNqwL9BOM6h2a/O94WOGU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFv7ZFJ4fvNPtWyVMtKb4tgMmkrvve3VtxZEoVD34V8rLHKhIJwcM6CKPiiB4lzsR2hFQ6gwUpvw6WJv6uBXZ0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:a68a:b0:1c0:fe16:90f0 with SMTP id i10-20020a056870a68a00b001c0fe1690f0mr8000428oam.52.1694314139484; Sat, 09 Sep 2023 19:48:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7850.1694039399@localhost> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 19:48:48 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006c05350604f8400d" Subject: Re: [Starlink] New Non-WG Mailing List: deepspace (fwd) IETF Secretariat: New Non-WG Mailing List: deepspace X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 02:49:00 -0000 --0000000000006c05350604f8400d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And there is a related internet-draft, here, challenging some of our thinking to date, on the bundle protocol. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-many-deepspace-ip-assessment/ On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 7:39=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht wrot= e: > For those of you that like to think at solar system scale: > > List address: deepspace@ietf.org > Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/deepspace/ > To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/deepspace > > Purpose: > Deep space communications involve very long delays and intermittent > communications. This list is for discussing the use of the IP protocol > stack in deep space. > > This list belongs to IETF area: INT > > For additional information, please contact the list administrators. > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > > > -- > Oct 30: > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos --0000000000006c05350604f8400d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And there is a related internet-draft, here, challenging s= ome of our thinking to date, on the bundle protocol.

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 7:39=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
For those of you that like to think at solar system scale:=

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Purpose:
Deep space communications involve very long delays and intermittent communi= cations. This list is for discussing the use of the IP protocol stack in de= ep space.

This list belongs to IETF area: INT

For additional information, please contact the list administrators.

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