* [Starlink] latency under load in NZ
@ 2022-12-07 22:11 Dave Taht
2022-12-07 23:27 ` Ulrich Speidel
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From: Dave Taht @ 2022-12-07 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Taht via Starlink
https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/295804/MBNZ-Spring-Report-2022-27-October-2022.pdf
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* Re: [Starlink] latency under load in NZ
2022-12-07 22:11 [Starlink] latency under load in NZ Dave Taht
@ 2022-12-07 23:27 ` Ulrich Speidel
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From: Ulrich Speidel @ 2022-12-07 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It always bugs me to read the word "speed" in documents like these when
they mean "data rate". The speed for all cable-bound technologies
involved is about the same give or take a few percent and it's measured
in metres/second.
That taken into account, the figures given in the report are believable
and reflect my experience here in NZ. What the report doesn't mention is
pricing - HFC starts from NZ$53 (US$34) a month with my provider
(Vodafone), Fibre Max from NZ$89 (US$57) - what you can get depends on
where you are.
BTW (Dave already knows) - we've gotten ourselves a Starlink unit as a
technology reference platform at the School, and I took it on its first
outing last week. We have a roaming subscription (NZ$199 / US$126) so
don't expect top data rates. We went to a park in Auckland as campus is
too built up and too H&S encumbered for operation on a roof. This is
what we saw on 3 interleaved tests using speedtest.net in the early
afternoon (all figures in Mb/s).
*Server*
*Test 1*
**
**
*Test 2*
**
**
*Test 3 *
**
**
*Average*
**
**
**
/up/
/down/
/ping/
/up/
/down/
/ping/
/up/
/down/
/ping/
/up/
/down/
/ping/
*Spark*
15.13
76.01
38
4.18
74.09
4.18
11.52
75.39
92
10.28
75.16
44.73
*Vocusgroup*
9.74
64.85
54
1.4
76.56
31
12.27
54.42
36
7.80
65.28
40.33
*MyRepublic*
6.74
176.1
33
10.99
129.3
63
11.98
110.6
40
9.90
138.68
45.33
*Kordia*
3.01
124.1
43
14.29
150.3
32
2.39
85
63
6.56
119.82
46.00
**
*Average:*
8.66
110.27
42.00
7.72
107.58
32.55
9.54
81.36
57.75
8.64
99.74
44.10
Caveat: The park was still Central Auckland, so in an environment where
there would have been very few subscribers for many miles around.
Physical latency to / from satellite should have been well under 10 ms,
so if Dave's rabbiting on about too much latency and bufferbloat in
Starlink, he has a serious point here. Even accounting for use of South
Island gateways, fibre backhaul to Auckland and BDP-sized buffers along
the way, these numbers are not a good look at all!
On 8/12/2022 11:11 am, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/295804/MBNZ-Spring-Report-2022-27-October-2022.pdf
> <https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/295804/MBNZ-Spring-Report-2022-27-October-2022.pdf>
>
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The University of Auckland
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