From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12e.google.com (mail-il1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E03F43CB37 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2021 14:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id l19so7175951ilk.0 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:29:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b8WQ1kVuMlhpYQPHPVwh9LQvMZc+Stp+J32BeYwlOOI=; b=Q1UTyNna3qLgFQXdaKx23MQ3BjoA3ZFZmKVigdj4cCXJk9/Ck+fcOTKVw44cYxqeT1 JelET4yRhJO1VHnPevTYttfTJfSwiHDKdD0ClaHhlWEIO9XYRxj40G2bSnjk4FEeudew xIC20g7KaoZHTXu8C1WR/p8uZ9XC+k1LzaQypZ53rIfQTR8KVIN7HI5fWbAz5wachZog jQLv5lV0xBBwNHHw+lvlcCACOQE1T3p3K2Qgu0/zv5IcjNydiHZm+yFXMnKy53GyHMv/ 0qExaOMy0j36+jaW7T5tfE+zMNp60skZj07NszaWAs6Sd+SUTgKmIcg+hop6Gmo9OKGu Iv3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b8WQ1kVuMlhpYQPHPVwh9LQvMZc+Stp+J32BeYwlOOI=; b=rPW3YNUfIHH0g/ZPjnNrNxMoWDQZhLB2nG4H3+Ov41dLtAkAwaLqGGZHxxLj9giP5u 5bWDlx8IDvdxdCMq4dpRAjcHBkcv2wCeyhgpFRgjaAymPGjSydMVH3wVFoKBueqOf3by WazgzgYUZ0srFSirUzu25c/cpan3a3Q2eUlLlufQv2t+meA7QTPElv4rAAneHurhHE2L FKfLysEsaJcj44e5S67o2R/DiM/NTP4JrT21MovGPCQKfmWq7LDqy1hA2SAPhUFy+U+E y5x0nSRsswsIPGX3q+RJKiNannRYXlu4TM/989sKtnZn5WkyYMR59cHdamnzhtOabwvD vESw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530mxCkKxmw4AZOkRmqXrucXrgYo6cvZGsHyO4nfOCtcSjXbwUjD lNWm8XoqyPDTxNVQqo5hV2MBIwBU/NOjkebLgos= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzefnszbyfeU0roNBDWpQ4TXa4u6GKMcyfH2tBNiPsRTh2AQir1SDO00JgaTa91nZaKJ+MEOlWtBSaZNRTE9pY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:52d:: with SMTP id h13mr23751556ils.274.1636050581182; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:29:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7907F9D1-9511-4254-BD8F-701888EB6778@onholyground.com> <172619.1636049781@dooku> In-Reply-To: <172619.1636049781@dooku> From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 11:29:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Cc: Darrell Budic , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink tidbits from NANOG X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:29:42 -0000 On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 11:16 AM Michael Richardson wrote= : > > > Thanks for bringing us this view.. > > Darrell Budic wrote: > > - v6 is deliberately > > not fully functional, but they know some of use are using it and it > > will eventually be fully activated. May be waiting on the regional > > connectivity, so will be intersting to see if changes for some area= s > > and not others as they roll it out. > > Even if they used IPv6 for the "last mile" and ran NAT64, that would stil= l be > a major improvement over trying to run dual stack. That's what the smar= ter > mobile operators are already doing. (jio, some US carriers...) have these operators have solved the mobility problem ipv6 has always had? if not then I tend towards a custom l2 that supports anything on top of it, which might even include cool things like icn. > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh netwo= rks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network archite= ct [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails= [ > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC