From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa1-x2a.google.com (mail-oa1-x2a.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C297F3CB38 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2024 14:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oa1-x2a.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-29e5aedbebdso505345fac.0 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:00:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1734634845; x=1735239645; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SaYOVGzz/raiFdbEJg8ulHouj3rTbltDa0N1rblbQME=; b=H6jDNNADO0+e610qRBLcR42EIG6ISC9PQpw46xYYdbBw6Kwsyt2T90XGO99t+d2w24 6chjBSdrTxtAuNwwnACElGPa5d/5WmadR2bt/TGYqmgwBJeBF1usWceuU1koO3jB7N/6 X9Qct+ddWHHDdlu5I85XZjWiAr+B61XGk4k6fIZq61lY50K5yev9FAm7NfkEAsRk1YMT ly1ea0kg6fTikjUfkhVRnYQiRDqs2uSaXIipYRbsNs9F4hc5c7sDn3yyc0zV93L1TwqW LaKVtXyX6q86lGogXSkiRcQQ6vx38I6dOUOT0abbGFG6B/RHvrmeDgHSShPbxdKAeVWi fLAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1734634845; x=1735239645; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=SaYOVGzz/raiFdbEJg8ulHouj3rTbltDa0N1rblbQME=; b=e3nBFGKp0vDSX3ZWMTAm7A7Rfot2ZwwTEFSu03aMhgOhhVfRrGk2erzRq7jwSEWdv4 FnqkALobuWGhWo+DmZUnPhixAAXt4THEdLxM2SllbgfrJr97LdXTm3nI9AJ1JzBi1gxL KbxyvOBsmmy1WhAkKghaWZrN0hx5TbbPtSHFrkQ2OGPQJ1+Uw0Yf018YC3TZQj01raeY mF+zFTFN7TBtSZr86YCr6aY/EZYfuvRx9TLbPVbCxDIB8GMgVnhg5iFtLan+b8wX+z+q bGXgXOhScqIV+YyN7CrLZ2pl/9IcwhPxNoBRqMINQ9YMc6dSdVlbGDCIV0iuOYwWZln/ SCqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyNOmqY8xajhvZFwPEa4OnT7oJtXG9waTr3/QtPXrGEJKRVd1lc VfDU1npL+dkwSWmexcM7pnCyA69Z5rDaXFMiUkzQa1RI4lDO9GvKmjt28a9eve+wix374PqPhOv +BhuPVay34vjwdXeh+C/tRIuFOhtL69HL X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsXz7g75pGxyz5bGGe9AQ2YEt8cw/cy1NUM+uosjGM2jksSqK8Gu+7w/vDU/Mq 59gIohUft7v7VAmBX+QFYz1qYZKOrKI5rCyqbFHlal6GguRyxORB9hMsxckKSSLsbeIUMGaiX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhQqkcoI6rfr6BsFCwbWaSUokfZmPU1dDXUWWkz6U9o0mkGyPK62OZkrWHHrMoDkrZ320CemOwnMpSC6JRLq0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:910c:b0:29e:2345:c656 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-2a7fb417c93mr23702fac.43.1734634845149; Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:00:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:00:33 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] ESA IRIS2 draft response X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 19:00:46 -0000 We decided to file a request for clarification on their "bufferbloat" RFP, if anyone would like to contribute, an early draft is here. H/T to dave cb for helping drive it along. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-9CB7r8Ks8CdYHPTKancLYWPfDPrJHMDsQ8JtXI= XvEE/edit?usp=3Dsharing It's not due til 2/25/25, but I'd like to get it out this year. I don't really know if we'll actually bid or not, and I just hit peak pedant mode on both this and the NTIA bandwidth guidelines and need a break. :( In particular I'd like to find examples of satcom scheduling, to this day I have no idea how the request/grant (or other) scheduling means are used at these rtts. My assumption for starlink is that these assignments are coarse at the 15s level... --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos