From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x436.google.com (mail-pf1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3C6A3B29D for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x436.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-68730bafa6bso33010b3a.1 for ; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 08:02:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693580521; x=1694185321; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=rjIty8kiHPGRXWP/EZLw0AwljzsvOjsoNirculKsKxo=; b=lsCmptZe2Q30jGxwh7LT63Lbs9D/TAJEWAqbecwdvjC5q/RP459kcZuBDmmGA3CJ69 UpHVuS1nNFCv/mjiIMO/Z+3tkNV68YV7elTD9lJv+2OAxY3tnZZzIkTpx/EBNm/1RqN6 biZw2qSJh0ZZbEptHJfzZNOAgx5Fh4fX6bfSpk7DyWW7cJvdQtIgsUKkAnLHYEsXNrKO jHSTDjMmAq/6w43jvuzGbNRqxrj1tJTZ7b1wEe/Lg9gcfOd3OCik+O5usoPJVH+Kd5ac hK0SRb/HLgVaMzyJ4rmoFWmeT55GHbdLvs8AbwJ+xTMbJZx5/STrWE6cJQeKrL8sCcWN 5jjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693580521; x=1694185321; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=rjIty8kiHPGRXWP/EZLw0AwljzsvOjsoNirculKsKxo=; b=H2Mw6YpUCHiekv85g3gTcLczHFKvxl2WRXxQxwtMZeTtZmZuokG5u3Sf/MvVMAdnM7 d2yC582s2IBDdnXaTRq8fWYwCCl8gmL2kFYX3wcKDRXJa8dbuBQEI3IoR1XItYpFCr2k E9GIrQDAd+mUl+nOfyR3DlUzUCHQoBbZilwS35gutZenneAEYFmaQsj2GIR/1mf0G8Gs ebS3CHCpkJ67ExmJaHqf9W7KQSx2iz14WpI/CW/ZP1oDnMTeZTWw3keFA/0u4yW3fiTr ZivaHuUGXpLZ9CvsVw+nVQPJMkEZ42cPh198W4+H2TA4wB/ubm+R97fntGzOfUGiQ323 Ap7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyClA7UKC9R99iVg5iEi3fHX6ouK+bJ2a97CvDULNtxk536fAcA 4lRsB6+hWFCKjN4VCPbtsrby8MLLNTJCGrO5GBDm8o8okMw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEDKEfdbwxRiubePm69wgYezJjM5fDMWtFK4Rw+UhBZfqSee3doIjeq8h7vzyDhLEgRuLgB/oG8UEh8v8+DyHA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fe86:b0:269:68e7:bbb9 with SMTP id co6-20020a17090afe8600b0026968e7bbb9mr3647549pjb.23.1693580521047; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 08:02:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 08:01:50 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] trouble in the deep space network X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:02:02 -0000 After hearing from Dodd and other NASA managers, Cerf said: "The deep space communications system is in deep=E2=80=94well, let me use a better wo= rd, deficit. There=E2=80=99s a four-letter word that occurs to me, too." - https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/nasas-artemis-i-mission-nearly-broke-= the-deep-space-network/ --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos