From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x532.google.com (mail-pg1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA9B33B2A4 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x532.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5c1acc1fa98so3852829a12.0 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1701100395; x=1701705195; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=jT4BDtrlw5TSwt4mkqw/lFz/7T0KwfvJ9UcEIqzp07o=; b=nHplVbpBhVSWukqsivRzdeomDrPcS8AVonJGWNZCLhKTV4MfdeZecYsxmyCgmfaIB9 brjLzj1GbZoFW6wTp2SAQ2pWdbXI/5dyFmhL5MJuMOd2ZrJETxz2FOMwMfVlEneNAKqC 9oU0hfKZcgyh4k+zc/+1xpBzIjpdzV1R2kExeDLa8LAtrlXoEgFD4TgjYsj1bK+wCvdo Q49PXUjVNPq2wdnv4VS+Hj4en3/DUDRopnFF8+sPvmfR7DrmhKVHyy6Wz23IIWsjyxbc xY8JN2tuTnOtouCn9XjP8nliZ+sGOYGRLYzwCzl0z5KC1eY8C1gBJaIHUizkkYZAhz6E wm7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701100395; x=1701705195; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=jT4BDtrlw5TSwt4mkqw/lFz/7T0KwfvJ9UcEIqzp07o=; b=tEK9ZgoBEI0abtXKm5FeAhLJhBtFJ/PBQUqHEICf8v7pebrPVZ9ld0F9CJdl7Ey8o9 ac4RAtTx9vvViUM/9H62Fn6uQyeWD03sjFbevRjOes+kbqf0/m7ImJYodIXlyw6dxXWN gPmuQayiOsIaHcwWuf9G5DbrvAikxgEB5iFgTDqRtW4qNEZGzlS+rnlVgA0SuVEapuw5 zbR8IMS+9j2w+QWzYRHRmW0tx+KQ8XDEk7FHQFc/T4AVmt5WIueNpHA9bP7lL1RgHv7I C9ZMgLEleqK70r7FQebwzIapU5cMa/rvFFksWAkbf0Bltbb1RENZ/8bVXktQszQ0gFnr YP8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwlIv7p0hxr0Hg+jwR7P3D/x0e7OQ6LG7ycbeExPNi02rky49kN uvtWt4yJZxGr1KwKFIkHaaRqN4Wk/UAWn+qlvNvA/pZrtD0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEQc6JHF1yxTfmthnDgOCnWthIjaJtnU9kgtGP4WqJQBOK9DL7bO0Khc14iRvgU5rg4FJYfJj8y/BkAhzVS7GI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:384a:b0:285:adbb:6ead with SMTP id nl10-20020a17090b384a00b00285adbb6eadmr8739117pjb.0.1701100395259; Mon, 27 Nov 2023 07:53:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:53:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] fcc NOI response due Dec 1 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 15:53:17 -0000 We started work on a response to the FCC NOI requesting feedback as to future broadband bandwidth requirements for the USA early this morning. I am unfamiliar with the processes by which Starlink was disqualified from the RDOF?, and a little out of date as to current performance. It is very clear they are aiming for 100/20 speedtest performance and frequently achieving it. A drafty draft is here, and some of the language is being toned down by popular request. (the pre-readers were lucky! I cut the cuss-words out) There is only one joke in the whole thing. I'm slipping!. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY= 4vH4/edit?usp=3Dsharing I have some starlink info contained in appendix B so far, but I would prefer not to cite my own long term plot as I did, and also cite others that have a good latency measurement, I like the 15s irtt plots I have seen gone by. If you have research about starlink you would like me to cite in this context, please comment on the link above! The NOI is the first link, and it helpe me, actually, to start with the FCC commissioners' comments at the end, rather than read through the whole thing. Not that I would not welcome more folk submitting themselves to that... --=20 :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos