From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 118783CB35 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 01:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id b15so1755892iow.4 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 22:48:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MtVYwSpip7zqAfPlGNFww5etomhKptzv3ONuuEmGzTc=; b=DlUxrWThVWwlyz/in740C52tqF7Dl20kUBsYkVo4xwnsXhT8WcYr9kz6C8LHpDVjiq jxCzITHjCUdGpvpcQgirWnHe25v/eIEnM/zQI60u31hHwHykj8g1QSM3hUkSGjuldajZ 8xegdd8X61TRv2RE+QLto//mxrGjWvSb5yjCxFbncGQCMQxUGQKuIrvMXgzbc/lkFmTN Fqb+JcIDB+iNsxrWm0GzCzbK+DbQf7iw8sO91rH4jdGmuSkKk6+DGYjFls0XcmxeArLj n9aBpwThBq5r/+1wG5AFwBz8e4Wu24sUglHpr2Fm0sN+qW3227QaMCaIW2Gpf4qBs2oW z3uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MtVYwSpip7zqAfPlGNFww5etomhKptzv3ONuuEmGzTc=; b=r8paE7OC8KJlTImyDu1E/IkX1H9CG8plRrFAsQTeUwFnbC4PIteGLndO/yoKpzpIhW 6g0frUNMISwIxlLghWoYxIOHGzAjZeSbytqKeiLLi0THIIA+OJLUoKUqOnfr5yKT3vUt 0mSQFWU3/a63HQ6FIcw0LBR9Ymt1bk0Yofx5ur9JYOYVZ0rQJ3Xj1obAuXfW9U366cIX GOcakVOYvWJUY1pDslwogpQHi6yUu1IB5hH/CFxUmxnDHYIBbkN7z9EPhyQLFTIovatC WVyvW4eoH81iI4qWhnOB/Ik20XnQSOzsOvv5UBhRajKJ7olV0amwSdTtE3l9qTeQdDA1 UApw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533/0DVdzJzRqqu5SS0ZP2pdbYRrV259nUKU8v8jfJqd58umY28o gYTDjICIfxdTCbtvwdeb8HA+apuoYVOBFy/NA3bd9DlM X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJH/sxjlAwxu8xIHbAicGCxYPj4ZSxmfN6Zqy8oso/+6T7LqoCPULgyaugrTU5YY735NVT+Yfn8Nkt0xoR0T8= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:d909:: with SMTP id n9mr6658856iop.27.1625032112407; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 22:48:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <85542036-9ff8-75d2-438e-c86cc0c105d8@sokolov.eu.org> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 22:48:20 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Lang Cc: Daniel AJ Sokolov , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] 69,000 Users X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:48:33 -0000 On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:24 PM David Lang wrote: > > I think that was 69k simultanious users > > dishy production cost is currently down to ~$1k/unit (I've heard that it = was > ~$3k/unit for the first ones) Keep hoping they will add good, nay, great!! queue management. Software costs nothing in qty. > But the long term upside if they can pull it off is a license to print mo= ney, > I've seen speculation that it's on the order of 30B/year when fully built I think that's kind of doable. It's too bad all those users are behind a CGN and cannot talk to each other, routing calls at least from one village to another would stay on the same sat. > > David Lang > > On Tue, 29 Jun 2021, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:32 -0700 > > From: Daniel AJ Sokolov > > To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > Subject: [Starlink] 69,000 Users > > > > Starlink currently has 69,000 User, according to what Elon Musk said > > today at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. > > > > In a year, he wants to have 500,000 users. > > > > He expects having to invest 25 to 30 billion US-Dollars to fully build > > Starlink. > > > > Each Dishy costs Starlink about double the current purchase price. > > However, they want to reduce the production cost to "a few hundred > > dollars" - which is why they are working on their own factory in Texas. > > > > FYI > > Daniel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --=20 Latest Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785920/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC