From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 139AC3B2A4 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 13:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id e128so5014819iof.1 for ; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 10:58:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cd0lwetwbQcvv8FT9sEq5t7ra8JS6LZQZtr9QGXPZOE=; b=oFBsc2hyzf4fvTMZLTsqPpR1g1VBMQK94OXs2pH/oayDWkGRGpXi6fJ01IdrmQSCC8 IcDOSkX8Xh4NM09+EXKHnNrihXHdXBHa5SGUmn6QM8DBSZqaVXf1XgEk7Dk9vhSvpHp+ fnquCIZQ6oJhBD0cbdk3kC51+Cxqa1nmd41IcBKTCB7y2Rf9FKvlwb6bPuinSheYG4Cf fqnCoIK4RXLpzwQtM9PNt9DEWnRgaE8mr8/fN/RqmkPJojlB0vSPOaip2wMAzxuDnz3B +P1idw6eG1+SCs54ot8oyAyocIMTuodCi3N7znSbmH+SN+Y47bJ2Tzn67klStK2jc5uw d2zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cd0lwetwbQcvv8FT9sEq5t7ra8JS6LZQZtr9QGXPZOE=; b=G+mD8dtpP6WD4kokD+KyW8R8eYkk24YROO1chprjAa//CA90A3FoTVAOj7sjV6V1ZD JXO/2noYW3VD749M5yJzO+ENFblwXm7FZLD9OQGl2bYuMpKSCl/uae5w9Dwto59pftVC IuEv8nu4/3A3UdoNI8dWwINseMmXlbojoTDJ+ausuMtxADt9ZntDP57M0OZPQN2F4ieG w5SVUNaOEFyWsAbWTMdOCtU37uoKKrY8Y1kPa0Oy77N7SQ+t3pSs40I0UHAVSEnsyLs0 leJZcTzDM6oWJrwQCIsWdfXA0YMJCZJe0PIUdh8xpl7GQ7y9e3eOFjmLG4KXyveVm1mi HNYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53356Ds3v+WMPslmAXdfTOtGlzObM4t3Vocw088ZtE1+juj11AmU daHfRdV6vS7WsRRBJ8wuznh55vWthjSspYxEALpkXCU7Rn8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlGyDIm4RA5okiBccvbB/S5oEED2Up5hgqzA5PU38kLa06C2Ho4gvOh0RgKofi8b1Ais5uHrJ1T5s3kXrYbDU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:2689:: with SMTP id o9mr25713148jat.83.1638557880265; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 10:58:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 10:57:47 -0800 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Starlink] fcc doesn't get buffering, still... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 18:58:01 -0000 from: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-378142A1.pdf " Recommendation ITU - R S.2131 - 0, =E2=80=9CMethod for the determination of performance objectives for satellite hypothetical reference digital paths using adaptive coding and modula tion.=E2=80=9D 58 That recommendation suggests that satellite systems using ACM should be designed to meet performance objectives stated as either the packet error ratio or the spectral efficiency (bit/s/Hz) as a function of C/N. While this Recommendation does not provide specific values for the percentage of degraded throughput that should not be exceeded, we invite comment on establishing a limit under such a criteria." Perhaps "degraded throughput" is an in... ... But what I was actually looking for was regulatory uplink power limits, as I figured that has been much of (and I could so be wrong) the uplink speed limit. --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC