From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833263B29E for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 03:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id q186so4601580oia.9 for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2022 00:19:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=45KyYq/LfnQYDpAc+cNsNCnowVHgWPs8itL0yWdQ+f8=; b=K3ZN0nRMamjvnFk/R4djZfBC5iidfIJL4bVb30GS1vk2D07q3dKMNsFHAyLOZaPeFN KJgvb1js6/ppaL2u+WSYk8JrUq0hSNV8AcpuC+hav0+WRGF4lR0ReJP9LpLDDhb0sfX3 c88YyZhNlUm1Arm0QfMGjrL7/rDf3CryJ4Y851nKRViePPcJesMjLHX4QzXn3//XP1eV EDq76lyfyrlSnL1JcOdGzozdZw+9yF64MEGlKuf2TqHmbTLg+G4mL1TeXNN0rxGO/E5M 2t6+tqq5oMAKqkZpd4Je0xbw4Um2nGWvJIm7ePYKW9sUG3tnXLZwKM1p16I8JEkR2iNM V3XQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=45KyYq/LfnQYDpAc+cNsNCnowVHgWPs8itL0yWdQ+f8=; b=NPJlfE94x6PJWtwVEeZ48jhtnNd8xeOQfp4CHla4QPBTJrd0pBQy4miNC/D4eCAiJP sRQq2MAFSLlRlPcVNahaYoMmDhZil6qxL3cmUpXsiWty3ff28xvRjorE0V531gRaKPiH 0Dak6vu5kjN/L619U5hJCuOj9nKmFU/0B5/IGCA/mSxFaItgUNThvT1hdq8RJxwGqu1x u1mhJc5CvU8lbxvOyxPs24rO4kL5ggXS4fb7g2SZPwMsfUoKP8vjLg3N8+HK98iEXF3B kbFEgr0N/xTm1nrqrSG0t5UWfbDk6sXd1m6KwrnuUQy0l7SUS912wjYDHv74+vScW3Ph wpHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmcVHypxuogcOZMDkp+7hOQUI4lNQBa3PPF9eZ0F2O/54mp9l6D Ocs1vDDFvEnp06Vib5mUCTJmFTHe6o2M0Kb1mk7PdXVqGj8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf61eb5cI1gHNvCFed0zrrrwqAQmb/0mdYx3o+DWVFwruSZ1jiSUNqXM1pdeJQSHMWtZCU417tpi4C5MZAFpRdI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:3dc:b0:35a:220f:800d with SMTP id o28-20020a05680803dc00b0035a220f800dmr28502625oie.170.1669969165491; Fri, 02 Dec 2022 00:19:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6359:7:b0:df:43c1:4e28 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2022 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 09:19:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2022 08:19:26 -0000 Hi Daniel, You may be interested on this paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365488929_Concept_and_Evaluation_O= f_5G_Backhauling_via_Starlink Looking at figure 9, I understand that you can serve up to 50 simultaneous users with a Starlink dish as backhaul, more or less, before calls quality starts degrading for everybody. Regards, David > Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 12:51:23 -0700 > From: Daniel AJ Sokolov > To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup > Message-ID: <2a6e2fbb-eda2-a5a3-e2c3-8b0b72bc7e27@falco.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed > > On 2022-12-01 at 12:48, contact--- via Starlink wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> It=E2=80=99s common practice here in Ukraine since May 2022. A lot of fi= ber >> optics channels and cell tower were damaged during the invasion. >> Local operators used Starlink as the only available channel. > > Thank you. > > Are there any permanent deployments outside warzones? > > BR > Daniel AJ > >