Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

[David Fernández]

Hi Daniel,

You may be interested on this paper:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365488929_Concept_and_Evaluation_Of_5G_Backhauling_via_Starlink

Looking at figure 9, I understand that you can serve up to 50
simultaneous users with a Starlink dish as backhaul, more or less,
before calls quality starts degrading for everybody.

Regards,

David

> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 12:51:23 -0700
> From: Daniel AJ Sokolov <daniel@falco.ca>
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> On 2022-12-01 at 12:48, contact--- via Starlink wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> It’s common practice here in Ukraine since May 2022. A lot of fiber
>> optics channels and cell tower were damaged during the invasion.
>> Local operators used Starlink as the only available channel.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Are there any permanent deployments outside warzones?
>
> BR
> Daniel AJ
>
>

Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

[Daniel AJ Sokolov]

On 2022-12-02 at 01:19, David Fernández via Starlink wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> You may be interested on this paper:
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365488929_Concept_and_Evaluation_Of_5G_Backhauling_via_Starlink
> 
> Looking at figure 9, I understand that you can serve up to 50
> simultaneous users with a Starlink dish as backhaul, more or less,
> before calls quality starts degrading for everybody.

Interesting. In some areas, this will be enough for a mobile tower.

(Also, there is a more powerful business version of Starlink now.)

BR
Daniel AJ

[Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

[Daniel AJ Sokolov]

Hello,

Are you aware of any cellular towers that use Starlink as their only 
connection?

Telegeography reports about the first such cellular tower in Japan:

KDDI (au) has announced that its first mobile tower using SpaceX’s 
Starlink high speed, low-latency satellite broadband internet solution 
has started commercial operation in Hatsushima, a remote island in 
Sagami Bay. Launched today (1 December), the new service ultimately aims 
to deliver an advanced mobile service to people living in remote and 
rural areas, through the deployment of up to 1,200 Starlink-powered 
mobile towers.

Now I wonder if they are the first to do this commercially, or if other 
operators have done it already.

Cheers
Daniel

Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

[contact]

Hello,

It’s common practice here in Ukraine since May 2022.
A lot of fiber optics channels and cell tower were damaged during the invasion. Local operators used Starlink as the only available channel.

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 20:46, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Are you aware of any cellular towers that use Starlink as their only connection?
> 
> Telegeography reports about the first such cellular tower in Japan:
> 
> KDDI (au) has announced that its first mobile tower using SpaceX’s Starlink high speed, low-latency satellite broadband internet solution has started commercial operation in Hatsushima, a remote island in Sagami Bay. Launched today (1 December), the new service ultimately aims to deliver an advanced mobile service to people living in remote and rural areas, through the deployment of up to 1,200 Starlink-powered mobile towers.
> 
> Now I wonder if they are the first to do this commercially, or if other operators have done it already.
> 
> Cheers
> Daniel
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Re: [Starlink] Starlink as Cellular Backup

[Daniel AJ Sokolov]

On 2022-12-01 at 12:48, contact--- via Starlink wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It’s common practice here in Ukraine since May 2022. A lot of fiber
> optics channels and cell tower were damaged during the invasion.
> Local operators used Starlink as the only available channel.

Thank you.

Are there any permanent deployments outside warzones?

BR
Daniel AJ