Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad.
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From: "David Fernández" <davidfdzp@gmail.com>
To: starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:36:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=tZ0pKESx4mUzcnoO7s3ERP_vNT1S+QZ2-0bktzS6QabBg3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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ADSL is a technology that is disappearing, but I have just remembered that
some ISPs were allowing gamers to disable the interleaving, to reduce the
measured RTT, despite having more packet losses, then.

I remember getting that option years ago by Jazztel ISP in Spain (now
Orange). You could just go to the web interface of the ADSL router and
enable/disable the interleaving, depending on whether you want to play a
game online (or make a videoconference) or you are watching a movie or a
football match...

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 18:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
Cc: starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
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Michael Richardson wrote:

> And gamers seem to know good quality, it's somewhat easy to test and
gamers
> aren't afraid to demand it, changing ISPs if they have to.

If they have the option to you mean.

David Lang

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             reply	other threads:[~2024-06-07  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-07  7:36 David Fernández [this message]
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2024-06-05 15:16 David Fernández
2024-06-05 15:21 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2024-06-05 15:32   ` David Fernández
2024-06-05 16:24   ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 23:10     ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-07  1:39       ` David Lang
2024-06-07  6:20       ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 17:41         ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-07 17:51           ` David Lang
2024-06-07 20:09             ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-08  1:53               ` David Lang
2024-06-05 16:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06  7:07   ` David Fernández
2024-06-06  7:41     ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 14:46 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:57 ` Vint Cerf
2024-06-06 17:12   ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-06 10:18 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-06 10:37   ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-06 10:33 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-08  9:31 David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:13 David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:46 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 19:09   ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 19:11     ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 19:14       ` Jeremy Austin
2024-05-07 19:46         ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 20:03           ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 20:05             ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-07 20:25               ` Eugene Y Chang
     [not found] <mailman.2773.1714488060.1074.starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2024-04-30 18:05 ` [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:04   ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01  0:36     ` David Lang
2024-05-01  1:30       ` [Starlink] Itʼs " Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01  1:52         ` Jim Forster
2024-05-01  3:59           ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01  4:12             ` David Lang
2024-05-01 18:51               ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 19:18                 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 21:12                   ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:27                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-01 22:19                       ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-06 11:25                         ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Rich Brown
2024-05-06 12:11                           ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07  0:43                             ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 12:05                               ` Dave Collier-Brown
     [not found]                           ` <CAJUtOOhH3oPDCyo=mk=kwzm5DiFp7OZPiFu+0MzajTQqps==_g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-05-06 19:47                             ` Rich Brown
2024-05-07  0:38                           ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 10:50                             ` Rich Brown
2024-05-08  1:48                           ` Dave Taht
2024-05-08  7:58                             ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08  8:01                               ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 18:29                             ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 18:19                             ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-04 20:06                               ` Sauli Kiviranta
2024-06-04 20:58                                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-05 11:36                                   ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:08                                     ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-05 13:28                                       ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:40                                         ` Gert Doering
2024-06-05 13:43                                           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 14:16                                             ` David Lang
2024-06-05 15:10                                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 16:21                                           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 19:17                                     ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 23:03                               ` Rich Brown
2024-06-06 17:51                                 ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-07  2:28                                   ` Dave Taht
2024-06-07  5:36                                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07  7:51                                       ` Gert Doering

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