ADSL is a technology that is disappearing, but I have just remembered that some ISPs were allowing gamers to disable the interleaving, to reduce the measured RTT, despite having more packet losses, then. I remember getting that option years ago by Jazztel ISP in Spain (now Orange). You could just go to the web interface of the ADSL router and enable/disable the interleaving, depending on whether you want to play a game online (or make a videoconference) or you are watching a movie or a football match... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 18:39:54 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Michael Richardson Cc: starlink Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Message-ID: <600nn7nn-27os-r792-r2r5-6sp7565p2617@ynat.uz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Michael Richardson wrote: > And gamers seem to know good quality, it's somewhat easy to test and gamers > aren't afraid to demand it, changing ISPs if they have to. If they have the option to you mean. David Lang