From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa1-x2a.google.com (mail-oa1-x2a.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 609F33B2A4 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oa1-x2a.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-1370acb6588so13908746fac.9 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=TXkaDhUbS3jRBZv0T3SuZMQJK+FwSd/D5FyS2d5FBW4=; b=azfacZh+vOMipZJraU8LeDLwafeMdP4h8dN0p+XYLPgJ0Dmf9dVf3A2/oi+FdjqpSd 2yuGBgfcXndqHnZDW7Bmxqs6ljB1+ldzG+QdjNnqHqLfkL6cNAau/F8ZKWdfYlR4/+0/ bo1GAmdFHK2hFxEVCP/yGZ1WlqV1MlJna87VBwyDb7JXJ/dn++0LI72LqdFo6lx5MR+l b+9G2+3RE2w1F4zFP5aslpizrLdlqlo6OuAosATaHCAogrPiVMelvQYRNliw/MbkIFQ5 sdzVLDkYtdo87uF7xE7zcfz1+JuUWsI5rfTZ+9ig0oV4qWYFfCEOoMsCL3I3YV5WS95k YdOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=TXkaDhUbS3jRBZv0T3SuZMQJK+FwSd/D5FyS2d5FBW4=; b=5pRO3NKrsRUvckYAZFxG5mVMCHaKOxvxxI0i1w1DS8PN+zTFBIEaRYirG4y8pSSe8L M+eUeyLoEtAtdxfyagt5tjgsiVLC+sSkTW7b8JNp5qYkuR4HVF+DzyP1VPq/HEy05NhK ektCW2XK02jkRYCImnKpoYp1C/8gNErQoTYNxBbUT+b7oYaXZf54VFHsZ9S9fe30NjVM heoo8GQVX0eCiObi5YvNYkCymBT58VKQHhgunBIbFRNedm/Uyv20xhqBm7UYMRTSgQIv 1J/j0CtFYFRGvwsDS1cCQHVriSaCQmGRtir7p9eu/7EAGSKh0R/6GpYV3ex6J9I6ue3P PxeA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1NuLCBdrVGfhvRJJ1OS0SxIWoQgFgHfR3z9Rou1z4bww0qTkh9 8HWbm/LegblKxZqMezYb3ziUrAqJDysL9Ttv6cxyx9E0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7gvpmc6EoOuPgNNijxx8iXN6Qic0RC/ZdSzHfcAQDzJ6iPIUrzC7cDGbHukFfY2+SfQZ8Y2jjhNgOfBy95ozk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:2487:b0:131:4fee:7c0c with SMTP id s7-20020a056870248700b001314fee7c0cmr6072283oaq.71.1666025631307; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:53:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6358:9ac2:b0:cb:c720:18ea with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 18:53:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:53:52 -0000 Another report, linked from the MIT one previously mentioned is also very interesting. In page 29 it compiles a series of latency measurement tools, including flent, that has been mentioned in this list before: https://www.bitag.org/latency-explained.php 2022-10-17 15:50 GMT+02:00, David Fern=C3=A1ndez : > That MIT paper is really interesting, yes, thank you. > > Have you ever heard about the Network Performance Score (NPS), based > on ETSI TR 103 559? > > That could be the kind of nutriscore equivalent for networks that they > are searching for on that paper. > > The NPS is proposed for 5G networks, but well, Starlink could be > scored too, as 5G networks are mobile wireless Internet access > networks, like Starlink. > > https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/nl/solutions/test-and-measurement/mobile-ne= twork-testing/network-performance-score/network-performance-score_250678.ht= ml > > Unfortunately, I am not aware of any tool, besides that one from R&S, > to measure the NPS or the interactivity score of a network: > https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/uk/solutions/test-and-measurement/mobile-ne= twork-testing/stories-insights/article-interactivity-test-concept-and-kpis-= part-2-_253245.html > > I am aware only of similar tools to measure interactivity, such as > these for TWAMP (RFC 5357): > https://github.com/nokia/twampy > https://github.com/tcaine/twamp > https://github.com/emirica/twamp-protocol > > Then, the UDP ping: http://perform.wpi.edu/downloads/#udp > > Regards, > > David > >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:26:08 -0700 >> From: Dave Taht >> To: warren ponder >> Cc: Mike Puchol , Dave T=C3=A4ht via Starlink >> >> Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency... >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" >> >> This MIT paper went by today. It's really good. >> >> https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3D4178804 >> >> >