From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22c.google.com (mail-lj1-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 126BE3CB37 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ffc380b1d0so7130051fa.0 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 02:40:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732790415; x=1733395215; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OqJmp9vDKAIE5y61Enaq+lz3xJkj/lsQXbFo5Z3UCyg=; b=IhwMwcM6hnFewbCPLsRyYBGd3LXRqX0/OlthNRVGtMO+8K8JsXyxdkqIqazMNUdXMu JNMQ2tukY+Z8RMnKQU13+Xvs/+miZ2JDTwKhKSm0T7T3B48679a0xoPCi0JMRWT6ay9o E8oQwTe28bCrUWK+Q1TizF16/pmgsjuz4LW/KzPdI1lOOttTaRT8jA8yCEPqoWeGgxPP mwy9B3ABZKKLeLjoOqZHKb/XTx6xVgkmky1SZzU8sRzQK2/5U3yEbeX11zmFa1KSR3cZ YPpo2l4QzU0colg1j17/t8nmDkmAz+qiynvm0deNmn5ddniEBTcWZXSqcxn0yRz+ozPR q9mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732790415; x=1733395215; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=OqJmp9vDKAIE5y61Enaq+lz3xJkj/lsQXbFo5Z3UCyg=; b=LPWnuiYmV/5zz9Z6HyPJECf7Wa3FaUlVuClr8DUZJHhXoCRkxeatwFQ+vuq3tGixHp V0bjl8OoQiPQ/nyPLJCF2zRqnLWtBWVNg2zzLH+6X4QZVISRkAqHGlD7NCzecIG8Ntw3 K4YS3+nkWVnSwiz9sIhGuqfb+T1L5WJtFMG/c92Be6XSDeKEuay2liV6fsVvw7KJSdA1 THKlTZgew2Hp5p8k8NRIdkxWgxaWh243dIshB50pRAumeMrU2x65CAuXFmX95HVBHL6E w5NeRezHeRJjlIrkldKbdKlTfJDvk4cQA/9Le2B1JRn3RTXhdgl1Ox0qy9vHiK21T+xQ bh8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwamWzhUs2weeSE9jRg1tsi6ES3NmWSXDYyrurH5RABZwluT69i ILZQ5EpbQDUomd8qJQVmuJENaHyigslDU/rLeUY3AmoK50W2veskRnv+PPLThS+U3LdzXG2HNMD UtWMxTIcnD6TuAqh+9M/t2qCG6NBazZKP5zIEDA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctOVX1SBfWdLBcrsk9IpbswAeQuEnqk68Lh6S4RiISdAX+J9sozNBQldEHCMob RBb5SQeBYsR6QWJm33UzI02kC9+k5gw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE6PVVf8HswR9iUf4zes+ymld6gG+Cy2KR/Gx9vNKT9+XFYtohCjxwQLt3xzpYaRUqQ/Ypx3KjqiSL+ay1olGY= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9792:0:b0:2ff:e210:fef6 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ffe210ff60mr3167421fa.4.1732790414864; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 02:40:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: To: starlink , Hesham ElBakoury Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000025fa710627f6b5f7" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print of Satellites Network X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:40:17 -0000 --00000000000025fa710627f6b5f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Hesham, You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered there: https://en.arcep.fr/news/press-releases/view/n/environment-071024.html You may be interested in following this IETF group, too: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/green/about This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too, about the development of energy neutral devices: https://6g-conference.dnac.org/2024/en-iot-2024 Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and being modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprint (and the increasing amount of e-waste). Regards, David Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800 From: Hesham ElBakoury To: Dave Taht via Starlink Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print of Satellites Network Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network. Thanks Hesham --00000000000025fa710627f6b5f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Hesham,

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Regards,

David

Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800
From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print
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Thanks
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