From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AC063CB40 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2f7657f9f62so10303641fa.3 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 07:11:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732806703; x=1733411503; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4lQGMQAhxJIZI6ujlvA7mSQ/7MdKQhyV03/vWzYJoX8=; b=nOJlBfXtm7LmEqqxyIRoeAOjMd2b/9ZFNtW1/SGohnfgObE2n0C0jXwjENnbuQ8xO6 rotXisAgcK4SZB8IXt/bAju/jadCJOoTkC+WT9DKatZovRQqXb9pDSBWy7nHv4vJqaHS 0PnKE+DSiBFIiwlImOeKENXF52EP6ZtY7b/p8gwmmswK9v15V9C8iRKcJlCa+VD5S62r HrZPB2PjyNQYZIAUMG8WlBxNP9Jr4u8ykNZPXZa9wrQSS4omR2HIwDq3WqzMBnNOj03/ r/F6bw3Kcphk4RGCHzsFikCB0+noLdaffLLxWeQ4UFFgOJrNpZ7bDP1aNTpqDThQI8Sg bnfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732806703; x=1733411503; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=4lQGMQAhxJIZI6ujlvA7mSQ/7MdKQhyV03/vWzYJoX8=; b=ozVldFr742NsAsOmCNjTEN44WVysK4LAscuwIzHywWQ19DZfoWZ1OXPi0o+GM27Iub JZ16ecqwfuSvgT+n0YJ2s/hg1mSl/09dIFBI28r2Feza0Zk0ztmhaTwjaj9ZnmA0ndlA 2mW5q46ElsGR3q38ezM9Wy7Z4LYZngmV3evQKlBYJOxud9i62XgQoSrVJZHdR455lfcp hswpVvXLlPqUDtiA0VzIrj/x41jffbXfn6K2gtkm+y7xdh3jqAiavFc672uICbsRki9i K3edldhfB8Si1WghJSHCZEhkogOqZmZaDCitGepVhxQ7tLtUaIf9nufVQmzvKEbrfsED +vBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw3AQSZJgfnlACSeQQhFeJXxZiI3b4OQUL6e2nAsnh4Sav4c0LC +8GCEZLpLwNHq065OtAE1YPHfpeuR2OHUjbHjynmRJUKNCGv14AGpOIgghkQ/xwbel1Wtq7TmuF SqzKIdil1hhea315zUpx9H/3iZlo= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncv7ihxld8Y2OnLcAV2J7NfMqk3JirCqUnCHtcRvOwF3st8i8bY8/v4pREmfQfM tvms8kd8ItuBApzbjYtZLczVgWak9LQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHidJNPDSEYJtVOheC2h3hx+jjgFgPCiTrjvSc73+iS7dvCaz+543d16U8CIe9m3fupwxWurUwR9sgh5qxG9GY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:2211:b0:2ef:17f7:6e1d with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ffd5fd07a4mr41447251fa.4.1732806703114; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 07:11:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 16:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Hesham ElBakoury Cc: starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000000f2490627fa80eb" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print of Satellites Network X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 15:11:45 -0000 --00000000000000f2490627fa80eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Hesham, Not really, but this one in English is referencing it and somehow reusing/summarizing it. https://dvb.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/S100_Study-Mission-on-Energy-Awa= re-Delivery-and-Consumption_Nov-2023.pdf Regards, David On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 at 15:36, Hesham ElBakoury wrote= : > Hi David, > > Is there an english version of the document: > Arcom-arcep-ademe-etude-impact-environnemental-des-usages-audiovisuels.pd= f > > > Thanks > > Hesham > On 11/28/2024 2:39 AM, David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote: > > Hi Hesham, > > You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to > reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the > audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered > there: > https://en.arcep.fr/news/press-releases/view/n/environment-071024.html > > You may be interested in following this IETF group, too: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/green/about > > This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too, > about the development of energy neutral devices: > https://6g-conference.dnac.org/2024/en-iot-2024 > > Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication > (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and bein= g > modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprint > (and the increasing amount of e-waste). > > Regards, > > David > > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800 > From: Hesham ElBakoury > To: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print > of Satellites Network > Message-ID: > 25FjyD6iN5yT+oW7XkgCZk77bow@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to > reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network. > > Thanks > Hesham > > --00000000000000f2490627fa80eb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Hesham,

Not really, but t= his one in English is referencing it and somehow reusing/summarizing it.

Regards,
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David

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 at 15:36, Hesham ElBakour= y <helbakoury@gmail.com> = wrote:
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Hi David,

Is there an english version of the document: Arcom-arcep-ademe-e= tude-impact-environnemental-des-usages-audiovisuels.pdf

Thanks

Hesham

On 11/28/2024 2:39 AM, David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote:
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Hi Hesham,

You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered there:

You may be interested in following this IETF group, too:

This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too, about the development of energy neutral devices:

Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and being modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprint (and the increasing amount of e-waste).

Regards,

David

Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800
From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print
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Message-ID:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <CAFvDQ9p6R9wdGFri3YPdU5=3D= 25FjyD6iN5yT+oW7XkgCZk77bow@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"

I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to
reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network.

Thanks
Hesham
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