From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x229.google.com (mail-lj1-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACDA13CB37 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2024 06:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x229.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e964acff1aso57780961fa.0 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 03:43:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1717497795; x=1718102595; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DFhUy4Vt61fbc/hSoPrcZSGcL49M7gtIhdjnIzcTqaE=; b=XHrl0m3Fe4zshdqLvqvCcpOIy+UcprEZI9qxNfDxXuJ8PNOKUFp7QVSxBCGUQmwMXT zD0Ld7aNobGtcc215yixaLSNu7U5TsnqAvGiMMfaVL4t27iR6BKdCJ5QrW3qSStV45Of KIZdBzOLpB0Coqq7EwlgA5saM+MYBMRdrgrjHQkBRQSivNVb5wU7MLXyKZl480k0QV8d lxkWJFIMHQAQUlK7fyzIiIOG1HRx6FV8b8ZTsUx5lZ5Pk8B629F/RZj3skQGnqmEq5tM C/E0BruE5bRpJ6fLzP+3MWScveSWWpc69MJEKAG5oTxkkjd3NrussY0xpknrKvPZZ6cC GqSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717497795; x=1718102595; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DFhUy4Vt61fbc/hSoPrcZSGcL49M7gtIhdjnIzcTqaE=; b=pfNf7wTuU7ZGvI8XNmq2TC39bIB2fc8JjjkmDgIiJ82MNWgupsiBOzzV9MJ/QnhUWI HUYOeTWjmkdhTCvKsoRVc8cwi0ERpxpAWiztRIYB/5gjpl4GccTDh2MQ2bC3R4lBm1J/ xuptJ1hocKOFSQm0Zp0ghiVcrMqHhpzQgCYAEJ+MuPorLisPiaxGZYnQfjPQCHucrx46 Xn9eskFu87Yye/IqnmJTp6PYr3F2qpJ/hJPAMOpgi9PQwFvQq8i9hJDpY0YnT1QJ/vlT CKE+ehoXUTitJeR9jBItPMHGsfCKVYWSRldSUH/DZGblpnXVyHpMp5pjDQ8pK5Ev5K0O B3KA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy5xZafLmiNX+qdNYinRodfpzAE1EcTbROLlfOysgWJpKEwuyrM Jz2oIWaWahq6dynwvt4hozvgJmGGPR5pmDmoOekmU9+ES3YuGZE1UVirtP0grfpjmyVRaTnuC8c ymrurfyk5vW1vXLotEgFied3Sxpc0Gh0uTv6Q0w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFI5/k2O01O0pC7IjIe07qIo+SMp34VurIyS/eufkQzqoX+zkuO3lizuaAqPvAjoXspj74v+4GPkh61uOuXpFM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7c08:0:b0:2ea:966a:c41a with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2ea966ac475mr69840071fa.19.1717497794591; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 03:43:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f303d4061a0e1d6d" Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX/Starlink says it's ready for a fall satellite-to-cell service with T-Mobile X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 10:43:17 -0000 --000000000000f303d4061a0e1d6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Both AST and Starlink are reporting speeds of around 10 Mbit/s. Those are not like the service Globalstar is providing to Apple phones for just emergency texts. https://uk.pcmag.com/networking/151288/spacexs-cellular-starlink-hits-17mbps-download-speed-to-android-phone From: David Lang To: Eugene Y Chang Cc: Frantisek Borsik , Dave Taht via Starlink Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX/Starlink says it's ready for a fall satellite-to-cell service with T-Mobile Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso8859-7"; Format="flowed" This is a fallback that will only be if there is no other coverage, and will be a poor data rate. I would expect that the impact to the phone battery would be less than the phone continually searching for a tower Also, SpaceX has pushed back, according to them this isn't observed interference with their signals, instead they reconfigured a satellite to the direct-to-phone frequencies and were able to detect them we'll see what the real story is. --000000000000f303d4061a0e1d6d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Both AST and Starlink are reporting speeds of around = 10 Mbit/s. Those are not like the service Globalstar is providing to Apple = phones for just emergency texts.


To: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>
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This is a fallback that will only be if there is no other coverage, and wil= l be
a poor data rate.

I would expect that the impact to the phone battery would be less than the = phone
continually searching for a tower

Also, SpaceX has pushed back, according to them this isn't observed int= erference
with their signals, instead they reconfigured a satellite to the direct-to-= phone
frequencies and were able to detect them

we'll see what the real story is.
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