From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=gmail.com policy.dmarc=quarantine Received: from mail-lj1-x232.google.com (mail-lj1-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::232]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5841D99DE07 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2025 12:11:12 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-lj1-x232.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-37b8aa5adf9so4765331fa.1 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2025 03:11:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1763637070; x=1764241870; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Ea0HD6iAjoJ3Nu3VU4dgg+QJBhNMUf1Qt3eSpAJpIXA=; b=eRVl2gAixOMWbT8Wa58WMvt54+mXHhQzsFnmiPLU5ooj57w8FnJwONqv5yqMgq3WV6 T0dWCngOn1iRQru5rD4pdfMyquA9M89g6YUpvdRFAiwIlzqHg8olEgziabPEr+04W0Gg UveU/LLjCyYFy+hcweD8BSD3XdubIHd8Q5kj5R5AraJO93nkWKIxknOIIE9mI1GeBtIJ RhxjFlbjyofX/nv/FNKuzS78gW+lMGNvv/5rs/fvkaSaZnIe+oJJ7FPUzRzlOWLUHFuW 6fR3CCpEI7yjMg6SRdSEy4dezP4kGk2zR0fkgeheKwblay3SkvVCmXFW4Dr0zyClsORW d+iQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1763637070; x=1764241870; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Ea0HD6iAjoJ3Nu3VU4dgg+QJBhNMUf1Qt3eSpAJpIXA=; b=SpYfF3+sElpNPy3JKVN42eMlUZLNOEIsimKAPmvqrVbNOQfIBdXNCRE/SeuH0ykHxu /Cvf4/KlQvCu76jB0HKuH4aBhih45c94xwbzAGeDGCBGuBIeP+LlxGRUJjrYtClKsX8L KXk6mvbXMDdwKiL/lh0QZIeKWCilbsbVGHQWKPhhS2VxT+tSQAo0BmBld6wYpzkVCAUt fFaSCpdR/zgjuQwKUvG0W46mB+PqMg9AecH7/OjqN/q4ojp2+dTWw6zvgWxzCig6dGsL HhYkF89HL554Twz6QMvLquXe84OZUZbNXWszXLhDZjri8XKCzM1FNVNNjfcgwbb6Wk2u cf8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzN8FIdnBu8hoDD9N8OrKfzCKL6DVCoopj2L7dn2m7BsGsLg1lc Qq31i767D54E9k76+HcjRD3kzqoZqDmX2vFeFz0H37Rx0zNHp3tid9NJYfYuSEg2EU9ttw+7MTh LyHa+1pEmyq9jlc394fklnuJz8jtKLYPOH2oj4TFS1es6 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnct7Fw+2ZZ/2Uy7uygFAh2e9VRKT3wfOLpnfIh22t5/WPtvyxW0j0BDOnkQdp/r kaARfDGp3DyYq9nq026Nk+heEjZseQoeKUxuIl8d78kfPZW80RdWfK9HicGjrTjljXLKht8ucsd 4GjD6JgeNWDc+z3hmGsUga8DkIaDeFFiOk2fV6bWniR4ZachGtGBo7iFj5egKEcgnTS8H/NcEWf tJNqKBwO6VaijUTLvJ+rFNFnBC4y5GfOZEzrFBjdSdmueP5/UbXO7c5mMKmy8ilqent2g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH/S4g4GMVcn6b8UnL+j8f1qzRHXiIzWqVA4WrQ2lQJLltawmzFLh+a7rI+g5/Cd/Tw1d0w4d+xXRzI0nTLnpg= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9317:0:b0:37a:2fee:31f7 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-37cc67b46d4mr6799871fa.27.1763637069795; Thu, 20 Nov 2025 03:11:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <176362217876.1303.16872643449823923048@gauss> In-Reply-To: <176362217876.1303.16872643449823923048@gauss> From: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 12:10:32 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AWmQ_bnAqaV7e35Cdcrlc2lTEpEKc02ztntcBPbAjgd5vXV8e5Um7fodXAaxd1g Message-ID: To: starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID-Hash: KRZTREVWIVETWKRVNA5MTBMHRUVBOEF4 X-Message-ID-Hash: KRZTREVWIVETWKRVNA5MTBMHRUVBOEF4 X-MailFrom: davidfdzp@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: How Starcloud Is Bringing Data Centers to Outer Space | NVIDIA Blog List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Data center construction is forbidden in Lleida. They just don't contribute to the local economy (that is the explanation). https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/spains-city-of-lleida-bans-data-centers/ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 08:34:54 -0800 From: Hesham ElBakoury Subject: [Starlink] Re: How Starcloud Is Bringing Data Centers to Outer Space | NVIDIA Blog To: J Pan Cc: 5grm-satellite@ieee.org, Dave Taht via Starlink Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There is also land concern. "State and local resistance to datacenters is rising sharply, with $98 billion in projects blocked or delayed from late March to June as communities push back over energy use, higher electricity bills, and land concerns. A study by Data Center Watch shows opposition groups in 17 states successfully delaying most projects they protest, prompting lawmakers to tighten rules, reconsider subsidies, and question whether data centers deliver enough local economic benefit to outweigh their growing community and infrastructure impacts." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/state-local-opposition-new-data-centers-gaining-steam-rcna243838 Hesham