From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com (mail-ej1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0FEC3B2A4 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a690161d3ccso353724966b.2 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 06:08:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=highrise-ca.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1717592935; x=1718197735; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=f/wlT3ygtf+6odwA9EtGIuWkBNoaDCANlyN3yqD01FM=; b=SAd6db5P05u0pUhpp3OxrH19F9tmftC/i5MgOI4Siu1Q2UZchewcdpv40+CblcAJ1L KEMy/DTNgbN3A65Kr1nhigDB8gMequt25VLTNaQVrZNOS6b+LM7a6bCo3hbVmOEb4Gt5 Safcz6/loIs3OWs77/6maDUoGV57Uuqc6Cl5EV7hKyeTveZjGbRBiyLTm3vOiEj4yZkQ z8MjEIl2eK0Lir+xk0ScrR5YcHJuo1hJiGIVCkOQStyoHVSQo56tjouXPjI5h6j0NRBL 0kLUwQLT9NB9K1PcQyvC/eTj6LwQQOmuoXwPg7WOiHOoILvPVMAPl6LX624hsC5MkOzo lTOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717592935; x=1718197735; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=f/wlT3ygtf+6odwA9EtGIuWkBNoaDCANlyN3yqD01FM=; b=nW/D+4dHzFvPLlXfHsi+tiisZAGJ4PYNV8gzmdAfLQNQyNziS0nHjUn/CtQrj8Oybo X6l84ChY1BQVZZhvJOdVLKQ3B6O7BA07Nlu0nrpTR9OBsDTjH1XMxG/FmiQKwSirwTjo fWkfjGtTEAnnLseUmMWDxJxeJI6E3pfT8bJCsK8truhJQRgvFCztDRTCLm1L2wiXsvuG 6fF3wBh+9vQGVnbxTBWtyl4V3rpVlhKNibBgiF7vqVc+/VPGnvjMvMFpkr4/9jaijQ3r ku4IGjWazT5MFcnFed4GRlQddVKX0WM1IbbswiYeoL+GX8DR5uagwBEdjlhM9SBR3IVm cY+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyvx9BytL/LwnewzYH3d4vU05DmfCoPrwZUQaSgXIkp0tC42513 iUS8+8EzTJMn6ksiL0mqLFjkE6qWV++v/QzFjjor39Bxll0VN0gih+VtCnuOSP8QLwBkm7CtPEo LtCj4rBswX708oN/jiUO5NwX9XHKCV2UNxR+w4Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH/qQOcA64FReHEhLh8xy8E/kpsjFcPbUNKNcjyQoOIxQsUPY9brmgm04iAD6fj5Oa0A8NyubyyAg2e1OghUyE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:fcc5:b0:a68:ef5e:a500 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a699f68228dmr181712566b.1.1717592934593; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 06:08:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <438B1BC4-D465-497A-B6BA-700E1D411036@ieee.org> <79C02ABB-B2A6-4B4D-98F4-6540D3F96EBB@ieee.org> <7E918B58-382A-4793-A144-13A7075CA56C@connectivitycap.com> <13rq2389-9012-p95n-s494-q3pp070s497n@ynat.uz> <6qop2p3o-351p-788q-q1q2-86sosnq3rn21@ynat.uz> <3FF32F52-4A93-496B-85FF-00020FA4A48B@gmx.de> <08F6942E-CC08-4956-B92E-CBEC091D86E4@ieee.org> <2F510BD5-2D7E-4A6A-A3DE-C529D14F6FBC@apple.com> <1078E544-F61B-4289-BCA1-BCDD9FA77481@ieee.org> <97d6e6f0-d153-42fd-b6c1-b64fb429dfca@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97d6e6f0-d153-42fd-b6c1-b64fb429dfca@gmail.com> From: Aidan Van Dyk Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:08:42 -0400 Message-ID: To: Alexandre Petrescu Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bc4f9f061a244469" Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 13:08:56 -0000 --000000000000bc4f9f061a244469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:36=E2=80=AFAM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > A 'tele-presence' over satcom linking several persons each speaking in > high density bursts might need a 1ms RTT latency. > I've never been in a discussion with several people where we all needed to be within 6 inches of each other's mouths/ears... a. --000000000000bc4f9f061a244469 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:36=E2=80=AFAM Al= exandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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A 'tele-presence' over satcom linking several persons each speaking in high density bursts might need a 1ms RTT latency.


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