From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x42c.google.com (mail-pf1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63B9D3CB43 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 16:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pf1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id x15so10513971pfp.4 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:10:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=H+0iKtaQC3OcMQLpwXIZMACP8yGGuRsuVOmTbyDEud8=; b=DBzRsj9gM92ZLLzrPOhrpuqv1NgxNUpXbr5u4zDfGg3zpTN05V1LxljXiEPlsXg1Kh iFCPs1JDvHFB454KrwY0Eta66m5MbADgVpO+RCjIwgL+hZ1WmYQiA++3MbsZNi/eOxe0 CYfcICD5tioL1knHUJde6P9NnWP9yPgnwbwZnM8KSGzYViIEj6/aIR33anAQeH7LLXbd SETQRHa3Q7fyhCDN41tywLa68MmwjM3onQHUNokb8hvKkDI82Wek9xC5Ivs+5Xmui819 yivSV1JxjlFZLzvcDgeYlptmBV563U9jVehr1QK00A1GuGik6DronWFlohklW1R6Y/ga sbuA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=H+0iKtaQC3OcMQLpwXIZMACP8yGGuRsuVOmTbyDEud8=; b=J4kTRdc42vViGHE4cSqmyJ4Lz8Z2A7Jt/fanzRTjvr8oJC/NZlT7d8kBn9Mr33p7dn tDyHQwg7SF3X9UFmWdEjpzWrvoC/+uHQtr61gT5WxcXDyrJNKqQMqN2ZYupOGErO+gp4 KGsSwXuwG1z7wYrE0NInH0jf9D2nnqOib6siSVqrSnxsISwiIFcmQsId3DihWlQWs2k3 sQDONknaNOEiZQj1bSlcebKi8HH5VGNHoQS3fCi8bU5Wyoyt3qRuYH4fz2irBFiHr93Y H9B1KVt7ZBIcXyUlYsRpkOZBHNuDf6FoMEs9OKCzcHngNEx7SbHdF4a0RrynFwCpAfHp vTeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo3O3FolSoS5YXddGvff2sPmQU6rfsJkstsM6Vdj5RVoiR+rWwPE 8YMzd1UFqwQi6fBRCujZbG6BjH7/1yD6boDPfMrcjjk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5HgGyTNCgq9yGuqRrtZW11fZYQUynLx26d+fHPSKSrH4w1249CGj+3VuUdR/tlkkSew6Si8JMJpP/J+Uab/+M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1252:b0:536:de0d:1d16 with SMTP id u18-20020a056a00125200b00536de0d1d16mr2512601pfi.82.1661199030291; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: warren ponder Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:10:19 -0700 Message-ID: To: Daniel AJ Sokolov Cc: Benjamin Henrion via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001a112905e6da0aba" Subject: Re: [Starlink] No RDOF-Funds for Starlink X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:10:31 -0000 --0000000000001a112905e6da0aba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good preso WP On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 12:47 PM Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Starlink was posed to receive 900 million USD from the FCC's Rural > Digital Opportunity Fund to bring broadband internet to unserviced areas > of the United States - until it wasn't. > > Earlier this month, the FCC decided NOT to give Starlink any of the 900 > million dollars after all. > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22-848A1.pdf > > "The Bureau has determined that, based on the totality of the long-form > applications, the expansive service areas reflected in their winning > bids, and their inadequate responses to the Bureau=E2=80=99s follow-up > questions, LTD and Starlink are not reasonably capable of complying with > the Commission=E2=80=99s requirements. The Commission has an obligation t= o > protect our limited Universal Service Funds and to avoid extensive > delays in providing needed service to rural areas, including by avoiding > subsidizing risky proposals that promise faster speeds than they can > deliver, and/or propose deployment plans that are not realistic or that > are predicated on aggressive assumptions and predictions. We observe > that Ookla data reported as of July 31, 2022 indicate that Starlink=E2=80= =99s > speeds have been declining from the last quarter of 2021 to the second > quarter of 2022, including upload speeds that are falling well below 20 > Mbps. Accordingly, we deny LTD=E2=80=99s and Starlink=E2=80=99s long-form= applications, > and both are in default on all winning bids (...)" > > (For purposes of Starlink, you can ignore the parts about LTD Broadband.) > > Also note this 2021 study showing Starlink's impending capacity crunch: > > We forecast a capacity shortfall in 2028: > - 56% of RDOF subscribers are congested in a forecasted > low demand scenario > - More locations will be impacted if RDOF usage is higher, > or SpaceX launches fewer satellites by 2028 > . RDOF service could be significantly worse if Starlink > capacity is allocated to non-RDOF use cases > > > https://www.ntca.org/sites/default/files/documents/2021-02/FBA_LEO_RDOF_A= ssessment_Final_Report_20210208.pdf > > > FYI > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --0000000000001a112905e6da0aba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good preso

WP

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022= at 12:47 PM Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Hello,

Starlink was posed to receive 900 million USD from the FCC's Rural
Digital Opportunity Fund to bring broadband internet to unserviced areas of the United States - until it wasn't.

Earlier this month, the FCC decided NOT to give Starlink any of the 900 million dollars after all.
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-22= -848A1.pdf

"The Bureau has determined that, based on the totality of the long-for= m
applications, the expansive service areas reflected in their winning
bids, and their inadequate responses to the Bureau=E2=80=99s follow-up
questions, LTD and Starlink are not reasonably capable of complying with the Commission=E2=80=99s requirements. The Commission has an obligation to =
protect our limited Universal Service Funds and to avoid extensive
delays in providing needed service to rural areas, including by avoiding subsidizing risky proposals that promise faster speeds than they can
deliver, and/or propose deployment plans that are not realistic or that are predicated on aggressive assumptions and predictions. We observe
that Ookla data reported as of July 31, 2022 indicate that Starlink=E2=80= =99s
speeds have been declining from the last quarter of 2021 to the second
quarter of 2022, including upload speeds that are falling well below 20
Mbps. Accordingly, we deny LTD=E2=80=99s and Starlink=E2=80=99s long-form a= pplications,
and both are in default on all winning bids (...)"

(For purposes of Starlink, you can ignore the parts about LTD Broadband.)
Also note this 2021 study showing Starlink's impending capacity crunch:=

We forecast a capacity shortfall in 2028:
- 56% of RDOF subscribers are congested in a forecasted
low demand scenario
- More locations will be impacted if RDOF usage is higher,
or SpaceX launches fewer satellites by 2028
. RDOF service could be significantly worse if Starlink
capacity is allocated to non-RDOF use cases

https://www.ntca.org/sites/default/files/documents/2021-02/FBA_LEO_= RDOF_Assessment_Final_Report_20210208.pdf


FYI
Daniel
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