From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1131.google.com (mail-yw1-x1131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDBA83CB37 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 02:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1131.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-31d7db3e6e5so80814377b3.11 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:17:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aterlo.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HaIf8fAPxNjexOex9W+sAHHPsoaPbuUnmHj4MIuAlbA=; b=757yLeyBgqOd/+PW+s8wY4COa0mzuXIV+oPrzw6ELf84YZsNB4haMioF6z1aqgdn2t 8L18akhebcYYuBaRjg6or98Ir1RbulNwswinNMvMbiUwgDix5BjbYZKX/YUV2OzTj7rU ovcziCGGnKdVQPWhRpn6kGnchc7sMEFUSQCA4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HaIf8fAPxNjexOex9W+sAHHPsoaPbuUnmHj4MIuAlbA=; b=15VTxsEzxhafux16FedBPmrHkLOFvCZ9eM1JuUMfRUYzP4PsAOLMkHhQITdOs8YGRC hPuPGkF6uUWb7uCGnbMqv7qkm4+Eqwh9yeX5w2GlCmGepzorR4UqV6Ix2ig8adA4bRxI HF8d2UeV0YTS+tyCLpn6y6GFbz93lGy5NvpeFmkZsoRu8CnrPPwB2YNCph2MwZm+2qJr bXPYm/6Va4l4MmQywjNfXj6GRRgHxMmo3mNpnWpt9864AGhZUR52N0iFEBhoBtQERF80 TLqkFNLQX0lh+2szZw2/gC0rUsCM3nhM5LxY9YzRYV+PfFCrdFc1xGSqhNgHfXbJuNb0 k/eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9AdW9sPHRahUodAV77YwDuKLRJQbKtlLI2Wv3hf4nMjLDCO9qv 6dMFaCKXMtTxDYalcOSC4OoJHyCdoptmfAt6M8AyYz8fRjs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sNzmFnaxyiVlPtPI9oGEkgt9sIwR3vhlpqBTM5LUvG+dTLvSvbjlJTsq/QqbcwxRdQIp+2+4u8nOg0rYDwH7c= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d757:0:b0:31c:87bb:d546 with SMTP id z84-20020a0dd757000000b0031c87bbd546mr23408367ywd.472.1658038636161; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:17:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jeremy Austin Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 22:17:04 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Rpm , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eec1e805e3fa332f" Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the latency, starlink! X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 06:17:16 -0000 --000000000000eec1e805e3fa332f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We will keep preaching it. This also feeds into the frustration around the manipulation of the US (FCC) federal definition of broadband. I care little about a 1000/500 connection with 2000 ms of latency under load; I=E2=80=99d much rather have= a 100/20 that never exceeds 100 ms! Jeremy On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:23 PM Dave Taht via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > there's three "lovely" new speedtest results here, showing nearly 5sec > of uplink latency under load. > > If only more folk would realize it's not the bandwidth, but the working > latency. > > > https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-massive-growth-results-in-congestion= -slow-speeds-for-some-users > > -- > FQ World Domination pending: > https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --=20 [image: Company logo] *Jeremy Austin* Sr. Product Manager *Preseem | Aterlo Networks* Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 *|* 1-907-803-5422 jeremy@aterlo.com www.preseem.com [image: facebook icon] [image: twitter icon] [image: linkedin icon] [image= : youtube icon] [image: Ask us about our new features today!] --000000000000eec1e805e3fa332f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Jeremy

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:23 PM Dave Taht vi= a Starlink <starlink@l= ists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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= https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-massive-growth-results-in-congestion-s= low-speeds-for-some-users

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