From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1F593CB40; Mon, 2 Dec 2024 18:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com (mail-ot1-f42.google.com [209.85.210.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1914A1B2B7; Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:51:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 1914A1B2B7 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1733183466; bh=P5QdX9SQsMYVpXwgqpr9DnZrpjxqUN+WlCooP9Pc/YU=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=RLpIu5AyBf8axVdUPLl6xSS22YuQq03yuXb/5kMVkGY22Wm9yFk0u9YZoNIUCBYkG 3VOtWlVyInBNMVIiXzaltlY4IQYeYBVr3eCTmxbvAta7kaa7kkZHJmahXud7Yo3t41 +c2VnrPEgZnl1cGszPjU1j6DrSdr5vVKmFAviOEg= Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-71d4e043dd9so2147724a34.1; Mon, 02 Dec 2024 15:51:06 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUPd5uMCELpdKJk5ft8Ogd5ZQaP7GQWSbZZTmqaak/WQJi04p3nAMn6tTQF/b8MQMiAI6OW7eh78A==@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz7aDKMmULk2apRa5m8VnuP11j607Cok/ujFGRLrqr8CX2rsj9v a5mnhS89f5BwitOjq2Bx/6Eb6Cq9NlgfEtOkTeOzZrc24UmEBoF9wHm4Ymq72qO4fDvom9pzokb opvY5B6fkTbFGa1++b3/sb4sku3A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEhE04Wk+nJvKdaOYgjz+nAOfltpM2RzkhhcMbOG4gsbATQipYmKTqreUAPZXcnSqJ0IUnziCO0ljAkSXMo8VQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:2649:b0:71d:62bc:85ec with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-71dad66baa9mr709852a34.13.1733183465468; Mon, 02 Dec 2024 15:51:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3E1E58BC-34B0-498C-9B5B-D9D1F25A1CDD@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <3E1E58BC-34B0-498C-9B5B-D9D1F25A1CDD@comcast.com> From: Robert McMahon Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:50:54 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Cc: Dave Taht , Dave Taht via Starlink , "Livingood, Jason" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca4ad50628523819" Subject: Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] I don't know if there is a new FCC NOI... X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 23:51:07 -0000 --000000000000ca4ad50628523819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The FCC won't block people or companies from building products & services around Fi-Wi in premise networks. So don't hold back on that. The sooner we fix in premise the better. We also need to fix journalism. Social networks aren't cutting it. Also, the mobile phone needs to be deprecated. Maybe some innovation on the device side of things? Generally speaking, we seem to have abandoned the idea of using markets to pay people rather instead have distorted things, e.g. abuse peoples' privacy rights in the name of selling our information to unscrupulous advertisers. Part of that fix is a digital payment system where it's funded by users and not by advertisers. Our communications systems need a lot of work at all levels. The industry seems distracted by AI or LEO. Fix the foundations first. My $0.02, Bob On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 5:30=E2=80=AFAM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > About the internet this year? > > There is nothing happening until the new FCC chair takes over, under the > new administration. > > > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --000000000000ca4ad50628523819 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The FCC won't block people or companies from building = products & services around Fi-Wi in premise networks. So don't hold= back on that. The sooner we fix in premise the better.

We also need= to fix journalism. Social networks aren't cutting it.

Also, the= mobile phone needs to be deprecated. Maybe some innovation on the device s= ide of things?

Generally speaking, we seem to have abandoned the ide= a of using markets to pay people rather instead have distorted things, e.g.= abuse peoples' privacy rights in the name of selling our information t= o unscrupulous advertisers. Part of that fix is a digital payment system wh= ere it's funded by users and not by advertisers.

Our communicati= ons=C2=A0systems need a lot of work at all levels. The industry seems distr= acted by AI or LEO. Fix the foundations first.

My $0= .02,
Bob=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at = 5:30=E2=80=AFAM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> About the internet= this year?

There is nothing happening until the new FCC chair takes over, under the ne= w administration.


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