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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on bottom.networkguild.org Subject: [Starlink] How Far Can Starlink Go? Growth for SpaceX's Satellite Internet Slows in the US X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 16:24:41 -0000 --000000000000d604be06200bbe81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Starlink's customer base in the US tops 1.4 million, but that's a marginal increase from the 1.3 million SpaceX reported in December.* EXCERPT: The US is Starlink's biggest market, but customer growth in the country appears to have slowed in recent months. This week, SpaceX told the FCC that it now had =E2=80=9Cover 1.4 million St= arlink customers in the United States.=E2=80=9D That's a relatively minor increase= from December when SpaceX told the FCC it had "more than 1.3 million" Starlink customers in the US. "This growth is not slowing," the company told the US regulator at the time. It's hard to say what has changed. SpaceX didn=E2=80=99t respond to a reque= st for comment, but the numbers raise questions over whether Starlink might have tapped the US market dry. =E2=80=9CClearly, growth has slowed in the US, even while accelerating in o= ther countries,=E2=80=9D says satellite industry consultant Tim Farrar. =E2=80= =9CBut the US remains by far the most important country for Starlink=E2=80=99s revenues, especially as the $120 monthly fee is higher than elsewhere.=E2=80=9D Since its debut in 2020, SpaceX=E2=80=99s satellite internet system has rec= eived rave reviews for its ability to deliver high-speed broadband to areas without access to reliable internet. It=E2=80=99s made Starlink a favorite = among users in rural and remote areas. But the technology can be largely redundant for people living in cities or suburbs, which already have access to fiber networks. To spur growth, SpaceX has been rolling out a variety of deals and discounts throughout this year to entice more consumers in the US to sign up for Starlink. This week, the company took its most aggressive approach yet, discounting the standard Starlink V4 dish nationwide from $499 to $299 in a promotion that=E2=80=99ll last for the next two months. In addition, the company has mentioned offering a =E2=80=9CFamily Plan=E2= =80=9D for Starlink that could convince existing subscribers to spend more once the program rolls out. However, Farrar said SpaceX would need to drop the total cost for Starlink even more=E2=80=94including reducing the $120 monthly int= ernet fee for residential users=E2=80=94if it wants to bring in more US customers= ... 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Starlink's customer base in the US tops = 1.4 million, but that's a marginal increase from the 1.3 million SpaceX= reported in December.
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The US is Starlink's biggest market, but customer growth in = the country appears to have slowed in recent months.

This week, Spac= eX told the FCC that it now had =E2=80=9Cover 1.4 million Starlink customer= s in the United States.=E2=80=9D That's a relatively minor increase fro= m December when SpaceX told the FCC it had "more than 1.3 million"= ; Starlink customers in the US. "This growth is not slowing," the= company told the US regulator at the time.

It's hard to say wha= t has changed. SpaceX didn=E2=80=99t respond to a request for comment, but = the numbers raise questions over whether Starlink might have tapped the US = market dry.

=E2=80=9CClearly, growth has slowed i= n the US, even while accelerating in other countries,=E2=80=9D says satelli= te industry consultant Tim Farrar. =E2=80=9CBut the US remains by far the m= ost important country for Starlink=E2=80=99s revenues, especially as the $1= 20 monthly fee is higher than elsewhere.=E2=80=9D

Since its debut i= n 2020, SpaceX=E2=80=99s satellite internet system has received rave review= s for its ability to deliver high-speed broadband to areas without access t= o reliable internet. It=E2=80=99s made Starlink a favorite among users in r= ural and remote areas. But the technology can be largely redundant for peop= le living in cities or suburbs, which already have access to fiber networks= .

To spur growth, SpaceX has been rolling out a variety of deals an= d discounts throughout this year to entice more consumers in the US to sign= up for Starlink. This week, the company took its most aggressive approach = yet, discounting the standard Starlink V4 dish nationwide from $499 to $299= in a promotion that=E2=80=99ll last for the next two months.

In add= ition, the company has mentioned offering a =E2=80=9CFamily Plan=E2=80=9D f= or Starlink that could convince existing subscribers to spend more once the= program rolls out. However, Farrar said SpaceX would need to drop the tota= l cost for Starlink even more=E2=80=94including reducing the $120 monthly i= nternet fee for residential users=E2=80=94if it wants to bring in more US c= ustomers...
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