From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bottom.networkguild.org (bottom.networkguild.org [IPv6:2600:3c00:e000:1c6::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27B123CB38; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:10:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iconia.com; s=bottom; t=1709928626; bh=Dh9gH2Tq7dMCg6Js5ZPtdH8angOY+wUkRx4Ihi05JjY=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=CU5wDsZu7nvQIuv4KNXLCC2kZsfX6Cf6w28qZyB8d6uIlNz6PEWi/ZeIxIrtargg2 NDv6fi+CQN5yVVoZiarcLyfdQ0si+WOwe1mletadV8pO6DZtzn4K7Nq7xdKVvNgPrh IHKY9T5zJbZUUeQ9c8uSCEbBK4UmX3biF5dXK/plMfJhRxyJrXDPf6ieKxlU5FhkqT +R9SE44qEXOVhuLj3zQXfYQQ9oQxzPOpcYVrv3m3Tsctdk5Ws83k2caXxGICVa9FQN D3zxvZ4joRQhned8An1llV+315WUgaaOeGMqTxFzEJWlpNKsUfqnKGHEwQ87WncWLv cuK3Fpxlw1vTQ== Received: from auth (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by bottom.networkguild.org (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-1) with ESMTPSA id 428KAPC5859529 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:10:25 -0500 Received: by mail-oo1-f43.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-59fc2d22cfaso964717eaf.3; Fri, 08 Mar 2024 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVt3QvFF/NJEYzIOGvS31G6oB+xvOELqTVJ+vW3ywY5samkPSuxZzlicxmQ4b3BkUHjhmrFPhAtppVhdSo6kSa5oNoXAVT4xjz+nPnmpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwrN1ScE8kE9eOQnNtKkix4i9iThREleud18uUe1pa8dE4G1975 8Hh07DKgBR6RpF4BMx6PuecqZVpkXYvptMOcXeMGyVpEa0sowgjHr7ERjtY5ug0KGv97UZpB9yu 91fPXy/xGbhkMf1tyX0YLbo42Xq4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhtu09y9ZRb2TDs3IFDvhmB3UfpPXZ732fmF15+5VAWrJ+pyngePAs5RYpO6ZzvRSBXDpLFG1PXm7fRAyCOis= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6358:5307:b0:17b:f04e:7e0c with SMTP id n7-20020a056358530700b0017bf04e7e0cmr410614rwf.2.1709928625125; Fri, 08 Mar 2024 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: the keyboard of geoff goodfellow Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 13:09:48 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: J Pan Cc: Starlink , =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004aca5006132bc879" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.0.3 at bottom.networkguild.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Milter 3.1.7 on bottom.networkguild.org, sigver: 7.96272 X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: Build: [Engines: 2.17.7.1529, Dats: 871106, Stamp: 3], Multi: [Enabled, t: (0.000019,0.010153)], BW: [Enabled, t: (0.000010)], RBL DNSBL: [Enabled, Score: 0(0), t: (0.000009)], APM: [Enabled, Score: 500, t: (0.005865,0.000151), Flags: BA7B0291; NN_BEGIN_TAG_NOT_OK; NN_LEGIT_VALID_REPLY; NN_LEGIT_S_SQARE_BRACKETS; NN_LEGIT_ML_MAIL_LIST_ADN], SGN: [Enabled, t: (0.018222)], URL: [Enabled, t: (0.000500)], RTDA: [Disabled], total: 0(900) X-BitDefender-CF-Stamp: none X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=5.0 autolearn=disabled X-Spam-Report: * -100 USER_IN_WELCOMELIST User is listed in 'welcomelist_from' * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on bottom.networkguild.org Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?utf-8?q?SpaceX=3A_=22IMPROVING_STARLINK=E2=80=99S_LA?= =?utf-8?q?TENCY=22_=28via_Nathan_Owens=29?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 20:10:27 -0000 --0000000000004aca5006132bc879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it would be a super good and appreciative gesture if they would disclose what/if any of the stuff they are making use of and then also to make a donation :) On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 12:50=E2=80=AFPM J Pan wrote: > they benefited a lot from this mailing list and the research and even > user community at large > -- > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, > Web.UVic.CA/~pan > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 11:40=E2=80=AFAM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow = via > Starlink wrote: > > > > Super excited to be able to share some of what we have been working on > over the last few months! > > EXCERPT: > > > > Starlink engineering teams have been focused on improving the > performance of our network with the goal of delivering a service with > stable 20 millisecond (ms) median latency and minimal packet loss. > > > > Over the past month, we have meaningfully reduced median and worst-case > latency for users around the world. In the United States alone, we reduce= d > median latency by more than 30%, from 48.5ms to 33ms during hours of peak > usage. Worst-case peak hour latency (p99) has dropped by over 60%, from > over 150ms to less than 65ms. Outside of the United States, we have also > reduced median latency by up to 25% and worst-case latencies by up to 35%= ... > > > > [...] > > https://api.starlink.com/public-files/StarlinkLatency.pdf > > via > > https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1766179308887028005 > > & > > https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1766179789927522460 > > > > > > -- > > Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com > > living as The Truth is True > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > --=20 Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com living as The Truth is True --0000000000004aca5006132bc879 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it would be a super good and appreciative gestu= re if they would disclose what/if any of the stuff they are making use of a= nd then also to make a donation :)

On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 12:50=E2= =80=AFPM J Pan <Pan@uvic.ca> wrote= :
they benefited= a lot from this mailing list and the research and even
user community at large
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J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan@UVic.CA, Web.UVic.CA/~pan<= /a>


On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 11:40=E2=80=AFAM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow vi= a
Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Super excited to be able to share some of what we have been working on= over the last few months!
> EXCERPT:
>
> Starlink engineering teams have been focused on improving the performa= nce of our network with the goal of delivering a service with stable 20 mil= lisecond (ms) median latency and minimal packet loss.
>
> Over the past month, we have meaningfully reduced median and worst-cas= e latency for users around the world. In the United States alone, we reduce= d median latency by more than 30%, from 48.5ms to 33ms during hours of peak= usage. Worst-case peak hour latency (p99) has dropped by over 60%, from ov= er 150ms to less than 65ms. Outside of the United States, we have also redu= ced median latency by up to 25% and worst-case latencies by up to 35%... >
> [...]
> https://api.starlink.com/public-files/= StarlinkLatency.pdf
> via
> https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1766= 179308887028005
> &
> https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNath= an/status/1766179789927522460
>
>
> --
> Geoff= .Goodfellow@iconia.com
> living as The Truth is True
>
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> St= arlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<= /a>



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