From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=fail (Used From Domain Record) header.from=iconia.com policy.dmarc=reject Received: from strange.networkguild.org (strange.networkguild.org [IPv6:2600:3c02:e000:dd::1]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ACB8114BD24 for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 18:45:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from auth (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by strange.networkguild.org (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6) with ESMTPSA id 64NGjn4h412183 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 12:45:49 -0400 Received: by mail-qv1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-8b8e98fd885so106992466d6.0 for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AFNElJ/MiwB82b9q+oB32SHVzZIW5gj+dvaFLBEeTuPpWfsvCAC0JHw28sVx0eY5dBg2KSiUFJzIlhqPqw==@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx3hbevhKOmJaXU3ojLtIcfVn4LROmjV0qhgAZ9aWpxrbsxeBWo mAV0RwIjT5OeyUbEKHNPjCRh4BTqcQMfxNzKhKbme11AijM7NEHirtiPDfqL+bLu2tov0xvQGbU CDAa73egfSIY81VNrkzqSSqH2h97NxjE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:4b0c:b0:8cc:611f:1972 with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-8cc7b5b89ddmr157721036d6.34.1779554749361; Sat, 23 May 2026 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: the keyboard of geoff goodfellow Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 09:45:12 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AVHnY4LfJwgR1CXI4zOvTQq6Q7-VUHtvE_XIIi80u9mvfG9OhjPSrl__BW9bU3o Message-ID: To: Hesham ElBakoury Cc: 5grm-satellite@ieee.org, Dave Taht via Starlink , Thomas Coughlin X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.4.3 at strange.networkguild.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.0 required=5.0 autolearn=disabled X-Spam-Report: * -99 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on strange.networkguild.org Message-ID-Hash: SLE44CD5REDS5EDHRFYMEVQB3HDLR5D5 X-Message-ID-Hash: SLE44CD5REDS5EDHRFYMEVQB3HDLR5D5 X-MailFrom: geoff@iconia.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Earth-Based Data Centres vs. Space-Based Data Centres: A holistic review List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: YSB3b3J0aHdoaWxl8J+ntXRoYXQgaW5jbHVkZXMgYW4gaW50ZXJ2aWV3IHdpdGggR2F2aW4gQmFr ZXIgb24gdGhpcyB0b3BpYzoNCg0K4p6U4p6UaHR0cHM6Ly94LmNvbS9CZWVuVGhlcmVDYXAvc3Rh dHVzLzIwNTc4NzY3NTkwOTQxNTMzNTQNCg0KZw0KDQpPbiBGcmksIE1heSAyMiwgMjAyNiBhdCA5 OjUy4oCvUE0gSGVzaGFtIEVsQmFrb3VyeSB2aWEgU3RhcmxpbmsgPA0Kc3RhcmxpbmtAbGlzdHMu YnVmZmVyYmxvYXQubmV0PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KPiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5zY2llbmNlZGlyZWN0LmNv bS9zY2llbmNlL2FydGljbGUvcGlpL1MwMzc2MDQyMTI2MDAwNTQwDQo+DQo+IEhlc2hhbQ0KPiBf X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiBTdGFybGlu ayBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QgLS0gc3RhcmxpbmtAbGlzdHMuYnVmZmVyYmxvYXQubmV0DQo+IFRvIHVu c3Vic2NyaWJlIHNlbmQgYW4gZW1haWwgdG8gc3RhcmxpbmstbGVhdmVAbGlzdHMuYnVmZmVyYmxv YXQubmV0DQo+DQo+DQoNCi0tIA0KR2VvZmYuR29vZGZlbGxvd0BpY29uaWEuY29tDQpsaXZpbmcg YXMgVGhlIFRydXRoIGlzIFRydWUNCg==