From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bottom.networkguild.org (bottom.networkguild.org [IPv6:2600:3c00:e000:1c6::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C4D53B2A4; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:47:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iconia.com; s=bottom; t=1688075252; bh=MFrm25sDgGj9dtAFyw6Pq1cdKrGeZ1xY2TVKOuDTj1Y=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=RKLzXPTd0wRCJxCSWGCGFJ9zhE6cGQ8TbH7z9m9tmHwHWDldLK2ikEJzryXiL028L 7IaksqJGapIoarExVZJQkD9Rxbm6D644WOwo12M3oVko0Zv1UED2JB4q8A3JMAe2bf wN4d8g7HFOpK+tqecIPJqOVGgWc46lDQzqmoYuYnBu4b/POS3v5TLEAd/AiG8fqujn sngqnvUjkKnKIX4XypDntwFW9P24Jo897mFnkn+gaVtgz5rhS7UvTaBiRIu0dGIa8o HKNBQPzgfwYwU9QLrUoOr8t5CHFKndb7m+nbb9rCNOFcJvswTuQpZCfK6NoBr+qY4o yYoMN3TuF0iug== Received: from auth (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by bottom.networkguild.org (8.17.1.9/8.17.1.9/Debian-2) with ESMTPSA id 35TLlSsW958184 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:47:29 -0400 Received: by mail-yw1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-57703895bd5so12164347b3.2; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLauXYSK9D2osTKpjgnOXv/6/kWcjzmuGRFg8ir+JDkBYaO+S255 3XnvP6zFjRMFalRzP0Rg/LeW8BTYVLVBmThuvT4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlFdpSc0WP7x/v73woAic+LxAkkt5Sn36clHiMd6pd1QzE5eXkeL723bZir6V7eimMt7Em6+HMAzOPmvFV1z/pQ= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:da01:0:b0:570:654f:aa42 with SMTP id c1-20020a0dda01000000b00570654faa42mr489747ywe.40.1688075248279; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:47:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: the keyboard of geoff goodfellow Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:46:51 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000087298d05ff4ba576" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.0.1 at bottom.networkguild.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Milter 3.1.7 on bottom.networkguild.org, sigver: 7.94892 X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: Build: [Engines: 2.17.3.1482, Dats: 871106, Stamp: 3], Multi: [Enabled, t: (0.000005,0.005387)], BW: [Enabled, t: (0.000008)], RBL DNSBL: [Enabled, Score: 0(0), t: (0.000005)], APM: [Enabled, Score: 500, t: (0.003856,0.000063), Flags: BA7B0291; NN_BEGIN_TAG_NOT_OK; NN_LEGIT_VALID_REPLY; NN_LEGIT_S_SQARE_BRACKETS; NN_LEGIT_ML_MAIL_LIST_ADN], SGN: [Enabled, t: (0.006479)], URL: [Enabled, t: (0.000929,0.000001)], RTDA: [Disabled], total: 0(900) X-BitDefender-CF-Stamp: none X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=5.0 autolearn=disabled X-Spam-Report: * -100 USER_IN_WELCOMELIST User is listed in 'welcomelist_from' * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on bottom.networkguild.org Subject: Re: [Starlink] If only we could cross the chasm X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:47:33 -0000 --00000000000087298d05ff4ba576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paging Nathan Owens! :D *"After nearly 5 great years, today was my last day at Netflix. Excited to get started at SpaceX (Starlink) in 2 weeks!* https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1662256501220671494 On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > on all the intertubes... > > > https://preseem.com/2023/06/how-to-reduce-latency-for-isps-and-subscriber= s/ > > While I do embrace the need for a middlebox on the down, the home wifi > really needs fq_codel running directly on it too, and cake on the > up... I really wish somehow, someday, I could sit across a six pack of > beer from a spacex engineer with a cross compiler for the dishy... > > I am really tickled that the majority of devices I have encountered on > my trip to nicaragua are either running fq_codel or are sanely > buffered in the first place. > > -- > Podcast: > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > --=20 Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com living as The Truth is True --00000000000087298d05ff4ba576 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paging Nathan Owens! :D
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"After nearly 5 great years= , today was my last day at Netflix. Excited to get started at SpaceX (Starl= ink) in 2 weeks!

https:/= /twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1662256501220671494

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via Starlink= <starlink@lists.buffe= rbloat.net> wrote:
on all the intertubes...

=C2=A0https://preseem.com= /2023/06/how-to-reduce-latency-for-isps-and-subscribers/

While I do embrace the need for a middlebox on the down, the home wifi
really needs fq_codel running directly on it too, and cake on the
up... I really wish somehow, someday, I could sit across a six pack of
beer from a spacex engineer with a cross compiler for the dishy...

I am really tickled that the majority of devices I have encountered on
my trip to nicaragua are either running fq_codel or are sanely
buffered in the first place.

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