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From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
Cc: Vint Cerf <vint=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
	tom@evslin.com,  Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>,
	starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	e-impact@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [E-impact] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 20:25:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFvDQ9oFnEYm7Ryb1p9tBgAL51Uumjp0rEzXtkDKQ7c_00ATNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZECsG+Ldro3V5+/4@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>

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Here is an interesting article about DC in space to mitigate power
consumption.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.elpais.com/science-tech/2022-12-28/data-centers-move-into-space-to-mitigate-power-consumption-and-pollution.html%3foutputType=amp

Hesham

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023, 8:06 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> I am looking forward to "Space Cowboys 2 - Data Center Edition"
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 09:16:38PM -0400, Vint Cerf wrote:
> > O&M will be a bear
> > v
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 9:13 PM Tom Evslin via Starlink <
> > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I think space-based data centers will be the rule rather than the
> > > exception. Wrote about that a couple of years ago although, as usual,
> > > things have not happened as quickly as I predicted
> > >
> https://blog.tomevslin.com/2021/07/computing-clouds-in-orbit-a-possible-roadmap.html
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of
> > > Michael Richardson via Starlink
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:35 PM
> > > To: starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>; e-impact@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space)
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw this reported in BIS-Spaceflight.
> > > (I'm usually a few months behind in reading it) I like the "first
> > > objective"!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press-release/ascend-thales-alenia-space-lead-european-feasibility-study-data
> > >
> > > Cannes, November 14, 2022 – Thales Alenia Space, the joint company
> between
> > > Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), has been chosen by the European
> Commission
> > > to lead the ASCEND (Advanced Space Cloud for European Net zero
> emission and
> > > Data sovereignty) feasibility study for data centers in orbit, as part
> of
> > > Europe’s vast Horizon Europe research program.
> > >
> > > Digital technology’s expanding environmental footprint is becoming a
> major
> > > challenge: the burgeoning need for digitalization means that data
> centers
> > > in Europe and around the world are growing at an exponential pace,
> which in
> > > turn has a critical energy and environmental impact.
> > >
> > > The first objective of this study will be to assess if the carbon
> > > emissions from the production and launch of these space infrastructures
> > > will be significantly lower than the emissions generated by
> ground-based
> > > data centers, therefore contributing to the achievement of global
> carbon
> > > neutrality. The second objective will be to prove that it is possible
> to
> > > develop the required launch solution and to ensure the deployment and
> > > operability of these spaceborne data centers using robotic assistance
> > > technologies currently being developed in Europe, such as the EROSS IOD
> > > demonstrator.
> > >
> > > This project is expected to demonstrate to which extent space-based
> data
> > > centers would limit the energy and environmental impact of their ground
> > > counterparts, thus allowing major investments within the scope of
> Europe’s
> > > Green Deal, possibly justifying the development of a more
> climate-friendly,
> > > reusable heavy launch vehicle. Europe could thus regain its leadership
> in
> > > space transport and space logistics, as well as the assembly and
> operations
> > > of large infrastructures in orbit.
> > >
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-20  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-13 16:34 [Starlink] fiber IXPs in space David Fernández
2023-04-13 17:22 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 18:54   ` David Fernández
2023-04-13 20:01     ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 20:06       ` Tom Evslin
2023-04-19 23:34       ` [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) Michael Richardson
2023-04-20  1:12         ` tom
2023-04-20  1:16           ` Vint Cerf
     [not found]             ` <ZECsG+Ldro3V5+/4@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
2023-04-20  3:25               ` Hesham ElBakoury [this message]
2023-04-20  5:43             ` [Starlink] [E-impact] " Daniel Schien
2023-04-20  9:31               ` Chris Adams
2023-04-20 12:50                 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 12:51                   ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-27  3:13                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2023-04-20 11:10               ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:23                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-04-20 11:24                 ` David Lang
2023-04-20 12:06                 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2023-04-20 21:21                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 12:14                 ` tom
2023-04-20 14:36                 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-20 14:18               ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-27  3:50               ` David Lang
2023-04-20 11:25             ` [Starlink] " Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:27               ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-20 11:34                 ` Mike Puchol
2023-04-20 14:21                   ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-20  4:33           ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 14:12             ` Michael Richardson
     [not found] <mailman.128.1682362805.60209.e-impact@ietf.org>
2023-04-24 20:59 ` [Starlink] [E-impact] " Priyanka Sinha
2023-04-27  3:18   ` Eugene Chang

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