From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x1032.google.com (mail-pj1-x1032.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1032]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73DB63CB40 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pj1-x1032.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2ea6f821decso695168a91.1 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:25:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732800316; x=1733405116; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9sw76L3DDUIxTn1QMeeYGGrvia8XWM+159ttEq/awX8=; b=V2l6K37Ca2rSZTpRQWBsX3bpViuM4ZujOlAQzg+B2B0mB1GBP90Bf0v3hpdRMrE7s3 DrBxaXz53zh/srjBMqMbbmQwJcHvNDjZu4obEhYULgViCN84wW09bquCSrnahRb3gLDq LzUiqFXALe7G0s73a01//SLlmgetrg07Vfrx8f80eqc44R06D+gIKFZqKcceHj+yrZPD IzThKFTlvnGCh+q3F72RzTpOG/G5B/cXbs7l0JknkKCTO92bwbDYC+q+80TQPqyKCa/I Nsj1ia2LxTEyxZ0alR9ub6ZRq/dwMoCN5uqFqVFULFA8cWb+er1XBMLgBesKint2Hkjb Oqgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732800316; x=1733405116; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=9sw76L3DDUIxTn1QMeeYGGrvia8XWM+159ttEq/awX8=; b=b5SEBdxQim6nh4/CAxreqsHvNqE9YcPkgQ7GAJEvrjNHYbvJ6s5V/5S2sSW33PVsFw P8DZebqUvmwf46z3po51OIZowVoBA4lLNMFVq4EKKx6l2nTRexgrPHS4w/mwewQr93+C 9OBh8oWFsPLT5CH851d4daMcL0WyZIOO3CaZvcy9DXuaJH1YNEvDmmEljOLm2PEoW2Vt Gw/IoXf9hW6sm67VRMNNxLeWmDH2adR54VG1aB/XblPCNn0el78tHo7lVV/dDMKfu+se g2UMe5TcKYO0+H007hsigfoxaXyikJVem3D45FGCcNJQ7+VHuMWtqBhoHxyis6PkWSxa iy3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzHPrQWCl0LpiqMzzPD3KqpyhMtVtMi8dlLo5cYgy2nKlPnEx19 moDJ/zr9B8w3eeia++Q2FyhgbSo6r61FYMF5kCuEByn+ZHO/SGUrcNqxBIvd2vTIZVEvx6/9WEh h8RVUcZZR+CSaGiFnzVILe4uJnkw= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncviFvqWChieho/Tmb7nzl+os9YFZsGpIqlt7MPdfBaRzYipYpO0zA1rTVeuTg/ Klwghs9spfxa5vp51uzPZRIi/miyCzkIXUmo11hAeAPRAJvCideQqheO2wDbwQXnqtA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGUfhyzZiQ/PZGQR15fDC8fk7u+TbHSxkQeagfI2LCJrC2NIaAJAOPG6aEglZ8ShOn5xALi6N1Kh6sV09SYfFM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1e51:b0:2ea:bf1c:1e40 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2ee08fc9026mr7976384a91.22.1732800316252; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:25:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Hesham ElBakoury Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:25:04 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Cc: starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000512bfb0627f90341" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print of Satellites Network X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 13:25:17 -0000 --000000000000512bfb0627f90341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks David! Hesham On Thu, Nov 28, 2024, 2:40=E2=80=AFAM David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote: > Hi Hesham, > > You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to > reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the > audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered > there: > https://en.arcep.fr/news/press-releases/view/n/environment-071024.html > > You may be interested in following this IETF group, too: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/green/about > > This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too, > about the development of energy neutral devices: > https://6g-conference.dnac.org/2024/en-iot-2024 > > Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication > (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and bein= g > modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprint > (and the increasing amount of e-waste). > > Regards, > > David > > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800 > From: Hesham ElBakoury > To: Dave Taht via Starlink > Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print > of Satellites Network > Message-ID: > 25FjyD6iN5yT+oW7XkgCZk77bow@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to > reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network. > > Thanks > Hesham > --000000000000512bfb0627f90341 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks=C2=A0David!
Hesham
On Thu, N= ov 28, 2024, 2:40=E2=80=AFAM David Fern=C3=A1ndez <davidfdzp@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Hesham,

You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to redu= ce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the audiovisual = sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered there:
<= div>https://en.arcep.fr/news/p= ress-releases/view/n/environment-071024.html

Y= ou may be interested in following this IETF group, too:

This workshop already happened, but you may get something = from there too, about the development of energy neutral devices:
= https://6g-conference.dnac.org/2024/en-iot-2024

Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during = a device fabrication (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them= last long and being modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce t= he carbon footprint (and the increasing amount of e-waste).
<= br>
Regards,

David

<= div> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800
From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Fo= ot Print
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 of=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Satellites = Network
Message-ID:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <CAFvDQ9p6R9wdGFri3YPdU5=3D25FjyD6iN5yT+oW7XkgCZk77bow@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"

I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to
reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of= satellites network.

Thanks
Hesham
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