From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com (mail-pg1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BB493CB40 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-7fbd70f79f2so867195a12.2 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:29:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1732811366; x=1733416166; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oexUYjWT/npiu0j7mh/yKfvuhDUDYz//3frlWFThUnw=; b=ClNuEiPEBtA2Mv7Mu/4xqXXSzT03CTDTKNzJA0H1DBcyQPdzjyA63YoFznFdvCSeSf KeWzYyrUauKOBaEanXkZpra86g5UiHnObE47YnxgivipvVcfYmgR/oICKafzoOhTQM4g jtlymetx8Wk7gOypc7oiS77HtEbnVVG8Mz+07CK1ffpccqZ46ZipaYlycR2iX5Wc1V6j 1rp0ewD5TBRlkg7MhUdc9nvWT3IjBvsR4plfjPk8SfaJ/qbjF1xxVIr4xuIMvt14LEy8 /wUNU+BUTE2908GD4OUInp4tnTk3LrLERPqVy0T6U3UlUg0Sx0DIWasVuV9BjLn/LyQ4 qoIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1732811366; x=1733416166; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=oexUYjWT/npiu0j7mh/yKfvuhDUDYz//3frlWFThUnw=; b=DRgrt0LEJZWppIz+hVOKkp3CxFaiNrJ6TuZRuPmAWtIsoADhNcwE2PHtoP4YBC9MJQ iqT8NNDrqpvRS3vrAB/Vpr12VWmC9tVTdNTmDXXd0Hyb4SWcDjQFcW/xyMtDSRakRHRJ z3riUzBI48NUGwOY0fxogd1k0/NKKMz0ue9XEXN4I6QFDTQ75EqY9jxq7KCyafp1NHb2 KOuASDvfE+5obwbhgBiQjrPh/zbXTpENKGFIdE3Er7voI32jN61ni8zuYBTlAn8rm5Uy oBWzyYzG2qIEnQVp5M+B9O9b8ZvouWDL3c+siRbQUetxm5rbP23Mn1DpG48Pl6YZs3eW 1vzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzCpLQylFRYbkck+dgH+IsNB7X+H/Res2mkLUz5gh6RoaPrFarX i5i1P75BI6IM3Zf1FYnG4HnhRMu/qyuT97RStwG3b0ztLzv+mygJWfLdtD2g6S9y3VghSTut1Ib RV8UZnlrWNnoTlq0bwCe4SvgBhoY= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvP4vHC7etNEgm0QBLVb6iZC2RMhl/JmeLe9JZ/3KNvsvRynm6UVgnPJeR3aiN FHpnPdww0gJukmqueif46mJ/HuGGrQsl31JOEA7yIRfHWWEG2/TohPN7F1PA2Jx9QMA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH1+9ynalyAJtS7gl+t/4BMrL3qW7khQSEkePfctQ90JzAMgqip3M2ECf/a9DGF3HO7TamzAkBBgXPoVXwTroA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4b87:b0:2ea:6551:da5d with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2ee08eb2b6emr9149116a91.13.1732811365051; Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:29:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Hesham ElBakoury Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:29:13 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?David_Fern=C3=A1ndez?= Cc: starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e077090627fb957e" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print of Satellites Network X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 16:29:27 -0000 --000000000000e077090627fb957e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks David! Hesham On Thu, Nov 28, 2024, 7:11=E2=80=AFAM David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote: > Hi Hesham, > > Not really, but this one in English is referencing it and somehow > reusing/summarizing it. > > https://dvb.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/S100_Study-Mission-on-Energy-A= ware-Delivery-and-Consumption_Nov-2023.pdf > > Regards, > > David > > On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 at 15:36, Hesham ElBakoury > wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Is there an english version of the document: >> Arcom-arcep-ademe-etude-impact-environnemental-des-usages-audiovisuels.p= df >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Hesham >> On 11/28/2024 2:39 AM, David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote: >> >> Hi Hesham, >> >> You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to >> reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the >> audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considere= d >> there: >> https://en.arcep.fr/news/press-releases/view/n/environment-071024.html >> >> You may be interested in following this IETF group, too: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/green/about >> >> This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too= , >> about the development of energy neutral devices: >> https://6g-conference.dnac.org/2024/en-iot-2024 >> >> Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication >> (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and bei= ng >> modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprin= t >> (and the increasing amount of e-waste). >> >> Regards, >> >> David >> >> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800 >> From: Hesham ElBakoury >> To: Dave Taht via Starlink >> Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print >> of Satellites Network >> Message-ID: >> > 25FjyD6iN5yT+oW7XkgCZk77bow@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >> >> I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to >> reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network. >> >> Thanks >> Hesham >> >> --000000000000e077090627fb957e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks=C2=A0David!
Hesham
On Thu, N= ov 28, 2024, 7:11=E2=80=AFAM David Fern=C3=A1ndez <davidfdzp@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Hesham,

Not really, but this one in English is referencing it and somehow reusing/= summarizing it.

Regards,

David=

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 at 15:36, Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@g= mail.com> wrote:
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Hi David,

Is there an english version of the document: = Arcom-arcep-ademe-etude-impact-environnemental-des-usages-audiovisuels.pdf<= /a>

Thanks

Hesham

On 11/28/2024 2:39 AM, David Fern=C3=A1ndez wrote:
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Hi Hesham,

You may check this report, in case you missed it, for ideas on how to reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint, in general for the audiovisual sector, but satellite distribution of video may be considered there:

You may be interested in following this IETF group, too:

This workshop already happened, but you may get something from there too, about the development of energy neutral devices:

Considering that most of the CO2 is emitted during a device fabrication (e.g. 79% for laptops, according to Atos), making them last long and being modular and repairable may be the best way to reduce the carbon footprint (and the increasing amount of e-waste).

Regards,

David

Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:16:11 -0800
From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferblo= at.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Reducing Eenergy Consumption and Carbon Foot Print
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I appreciate your input and pointers to publications regarding how to
reduce energy consumption and carbon footprint of satellites network.

Thanks
Hesham
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