From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52b.google.com (mail-pg1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEA643B29E for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 15:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id r17so737800pgr.1 for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:56:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680983780; x=1683575780; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hd8+Y/mlHLNTP08zFWnJzYoBh7HehUW6Naf+mabNoL0=; b=WjqX6Hb5e/00BmKyl/6cmhYNsdZTrLThtfQN15dWS2MT6dh99c9bmkkQ54d6aZnvRC jkhIaUzgCUA9JQpSy564zyVLv/IqrwW0sgc0c1K19IA7Fx6ikR8NPUKITAEUo99oCxrd akilbGx7y2WyRIddX1RT2cVBJmBsZHwegXtiPZy4dJLNjw9YDqpenEqhSBxGD8AoKTcT aW4KeF16T6mt9A4ieYCNI6W78gQOdq1+zQOX+HpXdoWBKty5KoZz5JSVAqHl3veEymRf A2gA8soxseZ6eTrgTVf/KPbgCQXxFXPtaZcqmufWUL0PrZoE25rpRoeIJXDruelPEI1C bKYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680983780; x=1683575780; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=hd8+Y/mlHLNTP08zFWnJzYoBh7HehUW6Naf+mabNoL0=; b=1WqoHWNPUYMboNchloCduyTHOj072cPKc2pD1GFxj7cqikQh0SQ3lWoo0/MJP5XuCs ilU+731evV8uICZHR75P2YeK+4iAoBaHH1/zDVpWl/NXNCWdUaX9rWKI6Aw42sXN6jZr KY38vdZ6YoEE1i+LS1ZVS/Z3ZQAtTwmBPYbXCssgQAdDrCAVtUmMwfddhMG2lq22maYD EXa9TrptFABSuB6su95ACl+aNCMgWTSmEddxnGb+Jq884YJu/SAxvimDvRzdE9/0Veo/ z1M5Y2Zxs7Gz9zZ1a40FoLEgLWgc/7NWKRNdvbgXXGJhWhgZ3qIP3IAvbYgz+4l7jWFP EhWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9e80aomDSp0QDZiLxyOeZGnL6jig2cUtMVsJ11Agzpm9o2ncKv4 Eh8ewVw7W5Gc5OYfSxUmuVo9xQVFw8deze78a9w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350YzeJ9L2PyAXuPPWTcZXLBnoh8lh+T7jLAA9IB8Vpk0lFgRM4RoELjWznZYl6RwUkn8+2sj+qd1H4/DKwL+zNA= X-Received: by 2002:a63:4466:0:b0:509:4ac5:7f3a with SMTP id t38-20020a634466000000b005094ac57f3amr1323353pgk.0.1680983779686; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <41ecacc1-9a34-8853-fbfe-f0e6add5e330@auckland.ac.nz> <145rq1sp-80n0-5q4n-sn82-364rn1n782s4@ynat.uz> <9305.1680979046@localhost> In-Reply-To: From: Hesham ElBakoury Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 12:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Michael Richardson , Dave Taht via Starlink , George Michaelson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000fbf8105f8d889dd" Subject: Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 19:56:21 -0000 --0000000000000fbf8105f8d889dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can refer to Loon library: https://x.company/projects/loon/the-loon-collection/ Loon CEO has a good Medium article with useful references: https://blog.x.company/loon-draft-c3fcebc11f3f Hesham On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 12:38 PM Dave Taht wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink > wrote: > > > > > > Google Spinoff Aalyira salvaged Project Loon technology for US military= . > > > > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/google-spinoff-aalyria-salvages-p= roject-loon-technology-for-the-us-military/amp > > > > Hesham > > I did not know that. Loon did one of the greatest post-mortems of any > project I had ever read, 60+ pages long, and I cannot find it now. > > > (I love having you all on this list!) > > > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> > >> David Lang via Starlink wrote: > >> > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rather than > UAVs) in > >> > the last year or two > >> > >> I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some > money > >> and partnered to start it up again. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Starlink mailing list > >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > > -- > AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > --0000000000000fbf8105f8d889dd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You can refer to Loon library:

Loon CEO has a good Medium article with useful references:= =C2=A0


He= sham

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 12:38 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM Hesham ElBakoury = via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>
> Google Spinoff Aalyira salvaged Project Loon technology for US militar= y.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/= google-spinoff-aalyria-salvages-project-loon-technology-for-the-us-military= /amp
>
> Hesham

I did not know that. Loon did one of the greatest post-mortems of any
project I had ever read, 60+ pages long, and I cannot find it now.


(I love having you all on this list!)
>
> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat= .net> wrote:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to= do this rather than UAVs) in
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> the last year or two
>>
>> I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up s= ome money
>> and partnered to start it up again.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Starlink mailing list
>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/lis= tinfo/starlink
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