From: Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com>
To: Noel Butler <noel.butler@ausics.net>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 05:08:57 -0700 [thread overview]
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In this Geoff blog (
https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/04/the-transition-to-ipv6-are-we-there-yet/)
figure 1 shows the increasing IPv6 uptake since 2012 and figure 3 shows the
increasing price of IPv4 addresses. Geoff concluded by saying that he does
not know when the IPv6 transition will end.
Hesham
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023, 6:33 PM Noel Butler via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> On 20/09/2023 11:13, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
>
>
>
> As vs Geoffs presentation on QUIC eating the universe in terms of traffic
> volume, and the world becoming a giant content distribution network, I
> still hold, that the internet is a communications network, and that despite
> content moving ever closer to the edges, more private content, and
> connecting people to people, and vpns to corporations, will remain an
> important use case. Ssh as one example, still holds the underpinnings of
> the network together, and is very low traffic volume, and there is no such
> thing as a "voip caching server". Also, big providers of replicated
> content, such as steam, are experimenting with bittorrent-like techniques
> again. QUIC makes torrent extremely feasible once again.
>
>
> Despite my high level of respect for Geoff, he, and others like him, often
> talk things up to push things their way of thinking, we only need look at
> the FUD they came out with in mid 90's about IPv4's imminent demise giving
> it three to five years before depletion, and here we are 30 years later and
> it is still the most dominant transport protocol by a long long mile
> despite allegedly running out only a few years ago and not in early 2000's
> as they tried to claim. (Even today there are still reserve stocks on /24's
> for newbies from some regions, and the bigger networks have years of
> stockpiled addresses in reserve).
>
> It's also like the local water board here who last week came out saying a
> whopping 70% of people surveyed said they'd drink recycled water, of course
> it was the local water board that conducted this alleged survey, because
> >90% of the more independent polling shows a totally different story.
>
> "Ohh, everybody's doing it" "must be safe" "we should do it" ... nah...
> TCP isn't going anywhere, nor is UDP, not in my lifetime anyway :)
>
> Cheers
>
>
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-19 4:39 Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-20 1:13 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-23 1:33 ` Noel Butler
2023-09-23 1:47 ` Vint Cerf
2023-09-23 4:22 ` Noel Butler
2023-09-23 6:41 ` Gert Doering
2023-09-23 10:53 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-23 11:28 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-23 12:56 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-25 4:40 ` Noel Butler
2023-09-25 5:00 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-25 5:10 ` Hayden Simon
2023-09-25 5:51 ` Noel Butler
2023-09-23 12:08 ` Hesham ElBakoury [this message]
2023-09-24 18:30 ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-25 4:04 ` Noel Butler
2023-09-21 13:20 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-21 19:05 ` Inemesit Affia
2023-09-21 19:08 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-22 8:26 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-22 8:41 ` David Lang
2023-09-22 17:12 ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-22 17:26 ` David Lang
2023-09-22 18:52 ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-23 21:55 ` Larry Press
2023-09-24 2:46 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-24 12:00 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-09-25 7:46 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-25 8:59 ` David Lang
2023-09-25 12:30 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-09-22 17:00 David Fernández
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