From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x1035.google.com (mail-pj1-x1035.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1035]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CDA63B29E for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1035.google.com with SMTP id r13-20020a17090a940d00b0023f07253a2cso1251074pjo.3 for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680980324; x=1683572324; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MfX5o0b9PpFGQKdkLO7ClQnFuEtXXyMJ4G9mcfOYNC4=; b=UIJHx2j8Sx3Mm+V3pNgym+wEGtXVxB6izYNBfj9gcf7zOBStdj1Y9f6yZauReI4/Wr s4ayPOKY98FtZ/UKJKtgcR3kOOl5oENWOZoTjs1asW0NrYW1TenEsc9jTeSxz1Ite/0G O5nfq8a3nb72L+DTTbMHX58rSMy+3+cyuQuTA/XxbnJIR48ASpHdAgrFLn47zYS32hOW wdAYqAq5+dvGIiy62dMiCnHdRRj5FQYcDJilLRIor44ELjJhfy4b/0GEvt8i7VaFK/3k v3cNpVGxc7Q6jOr7jAc3ytcOUZt4r6OIA6bVQUT8yGu9OW6dWPr6PHGAFKnbddln00qt C6Og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680980324; x=1683572324; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=MfX5o0b9PpFGQKdkLO7ClQnFuEtXXyMJ4G9mcfOYNC4=; b=0rytFLa6YqQfzVO12GrA6DyNyUWQWdIjd73zJDPWeNAfa56saf5PUNNADNKaQ5Le1w vAVT0eF0JGAces+miOEeWW5ZUWoPovT3QQqjwZORAlgjXDRh3Txm05WJ2mtuBA+q8+rc DRcsQQOEiHaVwBvRAobur4mK5y2VRi7kLvu4zMvpMFrlc5GOfT21A6LCAb5ty/hxcu1P Hz5Uxelo+IqRjIU1CfDMRKGmaqF6NKDKSyAC/2mWZRQ9mkwpCbBIM1esx7kPsyf6uPeY zbOPP4FeDAp1wrqjk576EZeSM0CHjpFpACsoL8n2i9OK4ieArFCd1ZE6bbfPjCcV3vYB /X3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9diFHAH2tg++iaTTkBHq6j3+JwI05m3RwcC2NStESW6QE5HN6XS qDgOHWwUE0uFmKLLqLG9NvqD6r3YFIiW4exqO6w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350Z7q5JAKqzTHawHeAPbALULMTp7Rig+U4JEuhREYfl7EKdN6h8DCeiIBgwt75U9WPL5qwEakdx6PeaBvIQkowY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:31d6:b0:1a0:6b23:7b55 with SMTP id v22-20020a17090331d600b001a06b237b55mr689272ple.4.1680980324175; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:58:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <41ecacc1-9a34-8853-fbfe-f0e6add5e330@auckland.ac.nz> <145rq1sp-80n0-5q4n-sn82-364rn1n782s4@ynat.uz> <9305.1680979046@localhost> In-Reply-To: <9305.1680979046@localhost> From: Hesham ElBakoury Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:58:31 -0700 Message-ID: To: Michael Richardson Cc: David Lang , Dave Taht via Starlink , George Michaelson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000018d51105f8d7bbdc" Subject: Re: [Starlink] apnic piece on starlink X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:58:45 -0000 --00000000000018d51105f8d7bbdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Frank Uyeda who led Google Loon project presented the paper "SDN in the stratosphere: loon's aerospace mesh network" in Sigcomm 2022. "The paper validates TS-SDN as a compelling architecture for orchestrating networks of moving platforms and steerable beams, and provides insights for those building similar networks in the future" You can access this paper here: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3544216.3544231 Hesham On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > David Lang via Starlink wrote: > > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rather than UAVs) > in > > the last year or two > > I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some money > and partnered to start it up again. > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --00000000000018d51105f8d7bbdc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Frank Uyeda who led Google=C2=A0Loon=C2=A0project present= ed the paper "SDN in the stratosphere:=C2=A0loon's aerospace mesh = network" in Sigcomm 2022. "The paper validates TS-SDN as a compel= ling architecture for orchestrating networks of moving platforms and steera= ble beams, and provides insights for those building similar networks in the= future"

You can access this paper here:=C2=A0https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/354421= 6.3544231

Hesham

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 11:37 AM Michael Richardson vi= a Starlink <starlink@l= ists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net= > wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Google shuttered project Loon (balloons to do this rathe= r than UAVs) in
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > the last year or two

I heard that too, but also that some external entity then put up some money=
and partnered to start it up again.=C2=A0

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