From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com (mail-qk1-x734.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 449C93CB35 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id 14so3332656qkc.4 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=forwardingplane-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=SEAfo+AW9Dcq+FOz5GSYEqimACa4UEJ6EgSEnjUFQ1I=; b=J/+NXlJOk9UwUNlsTm7DhpSfbhjNds/zzkdjxFtCuB+eVC610ZAyzEGdNnPmMbmB8o +wE+rxoKvnlCat6bj1k8LP3S8ViYRggvAjduIoNVFuhdfgClwKJSp2RU94vcKxqmvhlZ OjSJ4wwa0vjM5mxYcwCJSifGZLfsSe36B/Z3pOCM8gRkxL3Xi23+0SVXIBav3fMcivVC fdN6ZqfEMBOSd9IRcpuL9rmhl2SOXDgunwuXTkldh8A5yBMjFkA08HJZ9WhHaiNxaiby S9kzfAlJuHZl2rXgSThd3Jd+SztIsdpwt9tgQZ3PKtcOG9Lc8lAggTdZ8sAwFLeIfHSQ ndeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=SEAfo+AW9Dcq+FOz5GSYEqimACa4UEJ6EgSEnjUFQ1I=; b=AKwPCl+LtjdzU9Pe7u+IFrsLlEqXYOIw+K/Fkn1yRG9cgBxG8PoLb+J2yl3NJxoDQU 9Lwu5Uo/7qXoQzHPGDZPQFpFuOMYe2Fv0aFEhHMPfOzbZHgjB37ofwHbWQZZ1tdOJpJp 2SuDbHcASs6VXHU0SRheX+WLqocmh8FoCTdLtVSQqfs1t+o+MaGQirpOQUejS+wsae+E J7eLFw+nmNxMyXCwqQ8CkpXzOHozac6eaaxms8TFSqirZotchT15rdo2qNLpACBoPuIs v6Ia/uh44d9WNczSSCFELaj0Q0HRJEfFSsj2nNrr/U5HJ81i/+hZV/TlgSIULWSmx3na 7OwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531g82/M1YFqNeYFG/ETH3mhl1Vos9i37tW+BKSDCZvcnTuXQ56q E9w0JNgT3cTgClAMsK5t05mEu7+naD4tSUs9SE4Vxdhql4p5iA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx76EkmGCshDOChLWlPtrUDVf+MoS4v1/cqOzoJ0Ewbnx2wPx3MmfvxjrrKp71UI9hq0VHNdnssLYP3vs1+bW8= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6643:: with SMTP id a64mr241627qkc.256.1628704778073; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 10:59:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Nick Buraglio Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:59:27 -0500 Message-ID: To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net, Dave Taht Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bdcf9c05c94c6184" Subject: Re: [Starlink] congestion control info off the datapath X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:59:39 -0000 --000000000000bdcf9c05c94c6184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brief introduction from me: I'm Nick Buraglio.I've been building service provider networks in one way or another since the 90s. My day job is on the planning and architecture team for the Energy Sciences Network (es.net). I've been doing HPC and LFN networks for about 20 years now, having worked on almost every aspect from security policy and implementation to fiber planning and optical wave multiplexing, and most things in between (Layer 1 to Layer 8). My interest in StarLink is mostly personal, as I have long been a strong proponent of providing useful resources to underserved areas, but also from an academic perspective in dealing with the technical pieces. Traffic engineering, IPv6 proliferation, as well as performance testing are a big part of my drivers and personal interests. Sometimes I do a podcast called modem.show that talks about technical edge cases and deeper dive take-aparts. nb On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 12:02 PM Dave Taht wrote: > One of our newer members is one of the authors of this: > > https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~sn624/papers/ccp-sigcomm18.pdf > > I will reserve comment for now. I don't grok the intersection with ebpf a= s > yet. > > Please? newer folk here, please briefly introduce yourselves and your > interests in starlink's stuff? > I very much approve of lurkers - even aliases! for those that cannot > talk due to various NDAs, etc, but... > > For those here that don't know me already, well, I'm this renegade > that has long lived > outside of the vogon-industrial-military-academic complex with more > key open source > networking contributions to the world than most. These days I'm best > known for the bufferbloat > project and multiple congestion control algorithms/packet schedulers and > AQMs > > ( Please put a copy of https://bufferbloat-and-beyond.net/ in your > reading queue) > > but I have a long history going back to 1982 of kicking the tires of > the internet, > creating a RUD, and then fixing it. > > My own personal mission (as per the podcast) is to merely see starlink > get sch_cake up on outbound > on the dishy but long term I care a lot about just about anything > networked and in > space from here out to the edges fo the solar system. I'm really low > on spare time > at the moment personally, but if newer folk here would like to > introduce themselves > and point a link at a key paper of theirs or at their work in > progress, perhaps the > conversation will get rolling a bit more. We're still looking for more > folkable to do > our measurement suite in particular. > > (we also need to put up the mailing list archive so far for new folk. > Am short an > mailman expert for that if anyone has those chops?) > > -- > Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwg= w > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > --000000000000bdcf9c05c94c6184 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brief introduction from me:
I'm Nick Buraglio.I= 9;ve been building service provider networks in one way or another since th= e 90s. My day job is on the planning and architecture team for the Energy S= ciences Network=C2=A0 (es.net). I've been= doing HPC and LFN networks for about 20 years now, having worked on almost= every aspect from security policy and implementation to fiber planning and= optical wave multiplexing, and most things in between (Layer 1 to Layer 8)= . My interest in StarLink is mostly personal, as I have long been a strong = proponent of providing useful resources to underserved areas, but also from= an academic=C2=A0perspective in dealing with the technical pieces. Traffic= engineering, IPv6 proliferation, as well as performance testing are a big = part of my drivers and personal interests. Sometimes I do a podcast called = modem.show that talks about technical edge cases and deeper dive take-apart= s.=C2=A0

nb


On Sat, Jul 24, 20= 21 at 12:02 PM Dave Taht <dave.ta= ht@gmail.com> wrote:
One of our newer members is one of the authors of this:

https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~sn624/pa= pers/ccp-sigcomm18.pdf

I will reserve comment for now. I don't grok the intersection with ebpf= as yet.

Please? newer folk here, please briefly introduce yourselves and your
interests in starlink's stuff?
I very much approve of lurkers - even aliases! for those that cannot
talk due to various NDAs, etc, but...

For those here that don't know me already, well, I'm this renegade<= br> that has long lived
outside of the vogon-industrial-military-academic complex with more
key open source
networking contributions to the world than most. These days I'm best known for the bufferbloat
project and multiple congestion control algorithms/packet schedulers and AQ= Ms

( Please put a copy of https://bufferbloat-and-beyond.net/ i= n your
reading queue)

but I have a long history going back to 1982 of kicking the tires of
the internet,
creating a RUD, and then fixing it.

My own personal mission (as per the podcast) is to merely see starlink
get sch_cake up on outbound
on the dishy but long term I care a lot about just about anything
networked and in
space from here out to the edges fo the solar system. I'm really low on spare time
at the moment personally, but if newer folk here would like to
introduce themselves
and point a link at a key paper of theirs or at their work in
progress, perhaps the
conversation will get rolling a bit more. We're still looking for more<= br> folkable=C2=A0 to do
our measurement suite in particular.

(we also need to put up the mailing list archive so far for new folk.
Am short an
=C2=A0mailman expert for that if anyone has those chops?)

--
Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.co= m/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrwgw

Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC
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Starlink mailing list
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https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
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